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From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
To: Andrew Cooper <Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com>
Cc: "Wei Liu" <wl@xen.org>, "Roger Pau Monne" <roger.pau@citrix.com>,
	"Marek Marczykowski-Górecki" <marmarek@invisiblethingslab.com>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/CPUID: surface suitable value in EBX of XSTATE subleaf 1
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2022 08:00:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0e846638-c23c-0ec7-54b8-e318527ffac5@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d5188b0d-43d9-44f1-2aae-e8ca0350a911@citrix.com>

On 23.08.2022 12:48, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 23/08/2022 10:27, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> On 23.08.2022 10:59, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>>> But this is going to further complicate my several-year-old series
>>> trying to get Xen's XSTATE handling into a position where we can start
>>> to offer supervisor states.
>> Where do you see further complication? The necessary fiddling with XSS
>> here would of course be dependent upon p->xstate.xsaves alone (or,
>> maybe better, on the set of enabled features in XSS being non-empty),
>> but that's simply another (inner) if().
>>
>> As an aside, I actually wonder what use the supplied size is to user
>> mode code when any XSS-controlled feature is enabled: They'd allocate
>> a needlessly large block of memory, as they would only be able to use
>> XSAVEC.
> 
> This field is an already known kernel=>user infoleak.  There are threads
> about it on LKML.
> 
> But it does highlight another problem.  This change does not fix Linux
> on AMD Zen3 hardware, where the kernel will find the CPUID value larger
> than it can calculate the size to be, because Xen's use of CET-SS will
> show up in the CPUID value.

Why would that be? We don't even have CET related defines for XCR0, so
we don't enable the states in XSS. And I don't see why we would. Even
for other XSTATE-managed but not XSTATE-enabled features we could
clear the respective bits around the CPUID invocation (just like we
may need to set some in XSS). We'd be in trouble only for any XSTATE-
enabled feature that we make use of ourselves.

Jan


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-08-24  6:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-23  6:42 [PATCH] x86/CPUID: surface suitable value in EBX of XSTATE subleaf 1 Jan Beulich
2022-08-23  8:59 ` Andrew Cooper
2022-08-23  9:27   ` Jan Beulich
2022-08-23 10:48     ` Andrew Cooper
2022-08-23 12:01       ` Jan Beulich
2022-08-24 12:02         ` Andrew Cooper
2022-08-24 12:11         ` Andrew Cooper
2022-08-24  6:00       ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2022-08-24 12:19         ` Andrew Cooper
2022-08-24 12:36           ` Jan Beulich

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