Permission denied !? - will i ever update my system again ?

Permission denied !? - will i ever update my system again ?

[Moritz Angermann]

well 
hi all,
now after using reiserFS for a very long term without any problems
i'm facing a totaly new one and i'm helpless.
the problem is, while apt-get dist-upgrade, you all know this
command,[or not]
i get : 
can't access ./usr/include/arpa/telnet.h (...): permission denied

so i did ls -lah /usr/include/arpa/
the result : ( as root )
---
#>ls -lah /usr/include/arpa/
ls: /usr/include/arpa/telnet.h: Permission denied
ls: /usr/include/arpa/tftp.h: Permission denied
insgesamt 51K
drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root          181 2002-07-17 23:21 .
drwxr-xr-x   92 root     root         6.2K 2002-07-17 23:21 ..
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root         3.4K 2002-06-24 18:57 ftp.h
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root         4.3K 2002-06-24 18:57 inet.h
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root         5.9K 2002-06-24 18:57
nameser_compat.h
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root          20K 2002-06-24 18:57 nameser.h
(root@prototype/Wed Jul 17//home/cone/4)
#>
---

doesn't look any good, does it !? ...
so i tryed my HD-vendors tool.
WesternDigital...
but it told me my disk was 100% ok.
( it did also tell me a while ago, my dist had errors, so it corrected
em, awesome tool :p )
---
but now, what can i do about it ? reiserfsck ? well it keeps telling me
about unsable and i shall not use it ...

so any ideas ? 

thanks.

-moritz

Re: Permission denied !? - will i ever update my system again ?

[Ed Tomlinson]

To me, it looks like you have fs corruption...  You can try a reboot as see
if it fixes the problem (bet it will not).   You have three options.  First is to
live with the problem.  Second is to update reiserfsck to the latest and run
reiserfsck - I have used this option many times and its has worked well.  The
third option is to backup, recreate the fs, and restore.

If I were you I would backup anything critical, update reiserfsck run it.

Ed Tomlinson


On July 17, 2002 05:54 pm, Moritz Angermann wrote:
> well
> hi all,
> now after using reiserFS for a very long term without any problems
> i'm facing a totaly new one and i'm helpless.
> the problem is, while apt-get dist-upgrade, you all know this
> command,[or not]
> i get :
> can't access ./usr/include/arpa/telnet.h (...): permission denied
>
> so i did ls -lah /usr/include/arpa/
> the result : ( as root )
> ---
> #>ls -lah /usr/include/arpa/
> ls: /usr/include/arpa/telnet.h: Permission denied
> ls: /usr/include/arpa/tftp.h: Permission denied
> insgesamt 51K
> drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root          181 2002-07-17 23:21 .
> drwxr-xr-x   92 root     root         6.2K 2002-07-17 23:21 ..
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root         3.4K 2002-06-24 18:57 ftp.h
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root         4.3K 2002-06-24 18:57 inet.h
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root         5.9K 2002-06-24 18:57
> nameser_compat.h
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root          20K 2002-06-24 18:57 nameser.h
> (root@prototype/Wed Jul 17//home/cone/4)
> #>
> ---
>
> doesn't look any good, does it !? ...
> so i tryed my HD-vendors tool.
> WesternDigital...
> but it told me my disk was 100% ok.
> ( it did also tell me a while ago, my dist had errors, so it corrected
> em, awesome tool :p )
> ---
> but now, what can i do about it ? reiserfsck ? well it keeps telling me
> about unsable and i shall not use it ...
>
> so any ideas ?
>
> thanks.
>
> -moritz

Re: Permission denied !? - will i ever update my system again ?

[Oleg Drokin]

Hello!

On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 11:54:10PM +0200, Moritz Angermann wrote:

> now after using reiserFS for a very long term without any problems
> i'm facing a totaly new one and i'm helpless.
> the problem is, while apt-get dist-upgrade, you all know this
> command,[or not]
> i get : 
> can't access ./usr/include/arpa/telnet.h (...): permission denied
> so i did ls -lah /usr/include/arpa/
> the result : ( as root )
> ---
> #>ls -lah /usr/include/arpa/
> ls: /usr/include/arpa/telnet.h: Permission denied
> ls: /usr/include/arpa/tftp.h: Permission denied

Hm. So you have duplicate oid issue most probably, reiserfsck --rebuild-tree
will cure that. Be sure to update to latest reiserfsprogs first.
You might want to backup any critical data just in case prior to that procedure.

Bye,
    Oleg

Re: Permission denied !? - will i ever update my system again ?

[Vitaly Fertman]

On Thursday 18 July 2002 11:25, Oleg Drokin wrote:
> Hello!
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 11:54:10PM +0200, Moritz Angermann wrote:
> > now after using reiserFS for a very long term without any problems
> > i'm facing a totaly new one and i'm helpless.
> > the problem is, while apt-get dist-upgrade, you all know this
> > command,[or not]
> > i get :
> > can't access ./usr/include/arpa/telnet.h (...): permission denied
> > so i did ls -lah /usr/include/arpa/
> > the result : ( as root )
> > ---
> > #>ls -lah /usr/include/arpa/
> > ls: /usr/include/arpa/telnet.h: Permission denied
> > ls: /usr/include/arpa/tftp.h: Permission denied
>
> Hm. So you have duplicate oid issue most probably, reiserfsck
> --rebuild-tree will cure that. Be sure to update to latest reiserfsprogs

--fix-fixable will cure about that also.

> first.
> You might want to backup any critical data just in case prior to that
> procedure.


-- 

Thanks,
Vitaly Fertman

Re: Permission denied !? - will i ever update my system again ? [Slightly OT]

[Philippe Gramoullé]

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:06:26 +0400
Vitaly Fertman <vitaly@namesys.com> wrote:

  |  >
  |  > Hm. So you have duplicate oid issue most probably, reiserfsck
  |  > --rebuild-tree will cure that. Be sure to update to latest reiserfsprogs
  |  
  |  --fix-fixable will cure about that also.
  |  

BTW, would there be a noticeable difference in term of time it takes
between --fix-fixable and --rebuild-tree ?

(partition is ~600Go full at 65%, _lots_ of dir and files, very nested)

Thanks,

Philippe.

Re: Permission denied !? - will i ever update my system again ? [Slightly OT]

[Kuba Ober]

On czwartek 18 lipiec 2002 05:40 am, Philippe Gramoullé wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:06:26 +0400
>
> Vitaly Fertman <vitaly@namesys.com> wrote:
>   |  > Hm. So you have duplicate oid issue most probably, reiserfsck
>   |  > --rebuild-tree will cure that. Be sure to update to latest
>   |  > reiserfsprogs
>   |
>   |  --fix-fixable will cure about that also.
>
> BTW, would there be a noticeable difference in term of time it takes
> between --fix-fixable and --rebuild-tree ?

Definitely so. --fix-fixable is much faster, rebuilding tree on 600gigs of 
storage can take from two hours up to a day, AFAIK, depending on your system 
speed.

Cheers, Kuba Ober

Re: Permission denied !? - will i ever update my system again ?

[Hans Reiser]

Ed Tomlinson wrote:

>To me, it looks like you have fs corruption...  You can try a reboot as see
>if it fixes the problem (bet it will not).   You have three options.  First is to
>live with the problem.  Second is to update reiserfsck to the latest and run
>reiserfsck - I have used this option many times and its has worked well.  The
>third option is to backup, recreate the fs, and restore.
>
>If I were you I would backup anything critical, update reiserfsck run it.
>
>Ed Tomlinson
>
>
>On July 17, 2002 05:54 pm, Moritz Angermann wrote:
>  
>
>>well
>>hi all,
>>now after using reiserFS for a very long term without any problems
>>i'm facing a totaly new one and i'm helpless.
>>the problem is, while apt-get dist-upgrade, you all know this
>>command,[or not]
>>i get :
>>can't access ./usr/include/arpa/telnet.h (...): permission denied
>>
>>so i did ls -lah /usr/include/arpa/
>>the result : ( as root )
>>---
>>#>ls -lah /usr/include/arpa/
>>ls: /usr/include/arpa/telnet.h: Permission denied
>>ls: /usr/include/arpa/tftp.h: Permission denied
>>insgesamt 51K
>>drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root          181 2002-07-17 23:21 .
>>drwxr-xr-x   92 root     root         6.2K 2002-07-17 23:21 ..
>>-rw-r--r--    1 root     root         3.4K 2002-06-24 18:57 ftp.h
>>-rw-r--r--    1 root     root         4.3K 2002-06-24 18:57 inet.h
>>-rw-r--r--    1 root     root         5.9K 2002-06-24 18:57
>>nameser_compat.h
>>-rw-r--r--    1 root     root          20K 2002-06-24 18:57 nameser.h
>>(root@prototype/Wed Jul 17//home/cone/4)
>>#>
>>---
>>
>>doesn't look any good, does it !? ...
>>so i tryed my HD-vendors tool.
>>WesternDigital...
>>but it told me my disk was 100% ok.
>>( it did also tell me a while ago, my dist had errors, so it corrected
>>em, awesome tool :p )
>>---
>>but now, what can i do about it ? reiserfsck ? well it keeps telling me
>>about unsable and i shall not use it ...
>>
>>so any ideas ?
>>
>>thanks.
>>
>>-moritz
>>    
>>
>
>
>
>  
>
You don't mention what kernel you are running, but if you are running 
something older than 2.4.18 you should get 2.4.18.  

Hans

-- 
Hans