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From: Stephen L Johnson <sjohnson-WpdXj7kV/NVg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
To: Patrick Mochel <mochel-3NddpPZAyC0@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"Grover,
	Andrew" <andrew.grover-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"'P. Christeas'" <p_christ-U04EIuiosng@public.gmane.org>,
	acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Runlevel for Sleep?
Date: 07 Sep 2002 00:02:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1031374944.1530.44.camel@rodan.monsters.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0209061411390.1021-100000-yZQdDDOm3n9ZQn2sFP3R7eTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, 2002-09-06 at 16:40, Patrick Mochel wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Pavel Machek wrote:
> 
> > Hi!
> > 
> > > Right now I am leaning towards no. We don't have a runlevel for APM's
> > > suspend, why would we for ACPI sleep?
> > 
> > I believe we should have it for APM, too.
> > 
> > umounting nfs seems like good idea, and no ammount of drivers will fix that.
> >
> > > I think we'll know better once we have working device power management if a
> > > new runlevel is needed or not.
> > 
> > I believe 3 of them are needed - S1, S3 and S4. 
> 
> I agree that we need to do some amount of user-level work before we go to 
> sleep, but I'm not sure that a runlevel is the proper way to implement it. 
> 
> Unless you implemented a new runlevel for every possible sleep state for 
> every possible platform suspend mechanism, how would pass what suspend 
> state you wanted to enter? 
> 
> You don't really want to have a different one for S1, S3, and S4 because 
> they are ACPI specific, both in terms of their names and what they mean. 
> I don't think you could create a clean, sensible solution like that, that 
> worked for all platforms...
> 
> You could have one runlevel, and pass the state we're entering somehow. 
> But, we would need to get that from init(8) to reboot(2) [1]. That way we 
> could use standard rc scripts for doing all the dirty little things we 
> need to before we sleep. 
> 

Hi all. I'm new to the list.

I've been involved with the Linux on PDAs/handheld computers over at
http://www.handhelds.org/. They have to deal with the exact same issues
suspend/resumes issues with drivers and user-space issues. Although they
major concern is just with suspending in memory.

Over the past several versions of Familiar (a linux distrubution for
handhelds) a method for dealing with user space suspend and resume
issues have been developer. It is working quite well. 

The kernel calls a user space program called pmhelper with a "suspend"
or "resume" parameter. On a suspend, pmhelper is called before the
kernel  suspends the drivers. And on a resume it's called after the
kernel resumes the drivers. 

The pmhelper program on familiar calls a series of scripts in
/etc/suspend-scripts/ or /etc/resume-scripts/ (depending on the pending
state). The scripts are run in a SysV boot-script way. The scripts are
named nnScriptName where nn are numbers. 

I'm sure that this pmhelper/scripts method could easily be adapted for
ACPI/APM usage. Just my .02 cent.

--
Stephe L Johnson <sjohnson-WpdXj7kV/NVg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>




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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-09-07  5:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <andrew.grover@intel.com>
2002-06-24 17:35 ` driverfs is not for everything! (was: [PATCH] /proc/scsi/map ) Grover, Andrew
2002-06-24 17:48   ` driverfs is not for everything! (was: [PATCH] /proc/scsi/map kernel
2002-06-24 18:04   ` driverfs is not for everything! (was: [PATCH] /proc/scsi/map ) David Brownell
2002-06-24 18:04   ` David Brownell
2002-06-24 18:09   ` James Bottomley
2002-06-24 19:23     ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-24 19:23       ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-25 18:38     ` Patrick Mochel
2002-06-25 18:38       ` Patrick Mochel
2002-06-24 18:32   ` Roman Zippel
2002-06-24 18:32     ` Roman Zippel
2002-06-24 22:47   ` John Summerfield
2002-06-25 18:35   ` Patrick Mochel
2002-06-25 18:35     ` Patrick Mochel
2002-07-01  2:41   ` Pavel Machek
     [not found] ` <andrew.grover-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
     [not found]   ` <EDC461A30AC4D511ADE10002A5072CAD0236DE0D-OU+JdkIUtvd9zuciVAfUoVDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-04  0:57     ` Runlevel for Sleep? Lyle Seaman
2002-09-04 10:50     ` P. Christeas
     [not found]       ` <200209041055.g84AsFW05361-a1J+ToZc0kR3t0M9ZKkFCQ@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-04 14:14         ` Charl P. Botha
2002-09-04 14:35       ` Robert Wo"rle
2002-09-06 12:21     ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]       ` <20020906122153.F39-muQmgwBScQHrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-06 21:40         ` Patrick Mochel
     [not found]           ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0209061411390.1021-100000-yZQdDDOm3n9ZQn2sFP3R7eTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-06 22:29             ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]               ` <20020906222930.GE8827-jyMamyUUXNJG4ohzP4jBZS1Fcj925eT/@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-06 23:18                 ` P. Christeas
2002-09-07  5:02             ` Stephen L Johnson [this message]
     [not found]               ` <1031374944.1530.44.camel-EWEM0Crkbjs/2vX+WiJxEB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-07 19:51                 ` Patrick Mochel
     [not found]                   ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0209071232170.1021-100000-yZQdDDOm3n9ZQn2sFP3R7eTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-08 11:23                     ` P. Christeas
2002-09-09  8:46                       ` Diego Zuccato
     [not found]                         ` <3D7C5FDF.4FB4E759-gmoNqwowlqBr8A+qpt3pXFzrSV/HdtiB@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-09  8:50                           ` P. Christeas
2002-09-09 23:52                             ` Diego Zuccato
2002-09-13 17:13                           ` Pavel Machek
2002-09-14  7:56                             ` Andreas Lohrum
     [not found]                             ` <20020913171338.GC7096-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-14 10:23                               ` P. Christeas
     [not found]                                 ` <200209141237.g8ECb2d03519-a1J+ToZc0kR3t0M9ZKkFCQ@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-14 15:09                                   ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                       ` <200209081126.g88BQjn05186-a1J+ToZc0kR3t0M9ZKkFCQ@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-13 17:08                         ` Pavel Machek
2002-09-07 17:32         ` Lyle Seaman
2002-07-11  8:22 [parisc-linux] O_DIRECT on devices Patrick Caulfield
     [not found] ` <3D2D4B4B.4010705@deaprofessionale.it>
2002-07-11  9:35   ` Patrick Caulfield
2002-07-15  2:46 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-07-15  7:42   ` Grant Grundler
2002-07-15 11:29     ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-07-15 13:57       ` Patrick Caulfield
2002-07-15 14:10         ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-07-15 14:23           ` Patrick Caulfield
     [not found]   ` <willy@debian.org>
     [not found]     ` <20020916163335.J10583-+pPCBgu9SkPzIGdyhVEDUDl5KyyQGfY2kSSpQ9I8OhVaa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-16 16:12       ` 2.5.34? Brad Parker
     [not found]         ` <200209161612.g8GGCtv24883-paYRYfI9b/YMuHHiPFXXZ1fOaUvyCJUZ@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-17 15:51           ` 2.5.34? Pavel Machek
     [not found]     ` <20030726052012.GO1485-+pPCBgu9SkPzIGdyhVEDUDl5KyyQGfY2kSSpQ9I8OhVaa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2003-07-26 13:24       ` [PATCH] Toshiba ACPI Extras 0.16 Lyle Seaman
     [not found]         ` <20030726132501.C766314829-RAHWjsxJnJUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2003-07-26 17:18           ` M. Warner Losh
     [not found]             ` <20030726.111800.13461649.imp-uzTCJ5RojNnQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2003-07-26 22:09               ` John Belmonte
2003-07-26 21:32           ` John Belmonte
2003-07-26 21:25       ` John Belmonte
     [not found]         ` <3F22F1B0.9080607-ZFKsivP1bGvOQU1ULcgDhA@public.gmane.org>
2003-07-27 19:14           ` Matthew Wilcox
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-08-13 13:23 [parisc-linux] HP9000/L2000 + FC60 Fiber Support António Ribeiro
2002-08-13 13:29 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-08-15  6:01   ` Grant Grundler
2002-09-03 23:13 Runlevel for Sleep? P. Christeas
     [not found] ` <200209032316.g83NGXl07988-a1J+ToZc0kR3t0M9ZKkFCQ@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-03 23:38   ` Sourav K Mandal
2002-09-03 23:47 Grover, Andrew
2002-09-07  6:20 Grover, Andrew
     [not found] ` <EDC461A30AC4D511ADE10002A5072CAD0236DE22-OU+JdkIUtvd9zuciVAfUoVDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-07 19:56   ` Patrick Mochel
2002-09-08 20:42   ` Pavel Machek
2002-09-09 15:58 Grover, Andrew
     [not found] ` <EDC461A30AC4D511ADE10002A5072CAD0236DE25-OU+JdkIUtvd9zuciVAfUoVDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-09 16:36   ` Patrick Mochel
2002-09-16  0:14 2.5.34? Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
     [not found] ` <20020916001425.82756.qmail-jIUPyM9ARX+A/QwVtaZbd3CJp6faPEW9@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-16  0:25   ` 2.5.34? Matthew Wilcox
     [not found]     ` <20020916012506.G10583-+pPCBgu9SkPzIGdyhVEDUDl5KyyQGfY2kSSpQ9I8OhVaa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-16  6:19       ` 2.5.34? Toon van der Pas
     [not found]         ` <20020916081909.A25876-FeupCOz82S5hxPbjSeLqYA@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-17 15:46           ` 2.5.34? Pavel Machek
     [not found]             ` <20020917154653.C39-muQmgwBScQHrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-18 16:38               ` 2.5.34? Toon van der Pas
     [not found]                 ` <20020918183819.A10275-FeupCOz82S5hxPbjSeLqYA@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-17 23:36                   ` 2.5.34? Pavel Machek
2002-09-16 11:30       ` 2.5.34? Brad Parker
     [not found]         ` <200209161130.g8GBUo024143-paYRYfI9b/YMuHHiPFXXZ1fOaUvyCJUZ@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-16 15:33           ` 2.5.34? Matthew Wilcox
2002-09-17 15:49           ` 2.5.34? Pavel Machek
2003-07-18  5:27 [parisc-linux] cvs [login aborted]? Joel Soete
2003-07-18 11:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-07-18 14:44   ` bame
2003-07-25 23:28 [PATCH] Toshiba ACPI Extras 0.16 John Belmonte
     [not found] ` <3F21BD11.8060405-ZFKsivP1bGvOQU1ULcgDhA@public.gmane.org>
2003-07-26  5:20   ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-06-23  6:26 swsusp and ac status Daniele Boffi
     [not found] ` <20040623082653.A26014-xzhXYMPkGmXoPXhRcRtihA@public.gmane.org>
2004-06-23 13:34   ` Stefan Seyfried
2004-06-24 19:53   ` Pavel Machek
     [not found] <pavel@suse.cz>
     [not found] ` <20020917155146.F39-muQmgwBScQHrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-18 12:24   ` 2.5.34? Brad Parker
     [not found]     ` <200209181224.g8ICONr31147-paYRYfI9b/YMuHHiPFXXZ1fOaUvyCJUZ@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-18 12:53       ` 2.5.34? Pavel Machek
     [not found] ` <20040624195304.GE698-u08AdweFZfgxtPtxi4kahqVXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2004-06-29 11:50   ` swsusp and ac status Daniele Boffi
     [not found]     ` <200406291150.i5TBopX9001428-xzhXYMPkGmXoPXhRcRtihA@public.gmane.org>
2004-06-29 11:54       ` Pavel Machek

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