From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>
To: "Grover, Andrew" <andrew.grover@intel.com>
Cc: 'David Brownell' <david-b@pacbell.net>,
'Nick Bellinger' <nickb@attheoffice.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
Patrick Mochel <mochel@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: driverfs is not for everything! (was: [PATCH] /proc/scsi/map )
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 14:09:13 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200206241809.g5OI9Ds02886@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Message from "Grover, Andrew" <andrew.grover@intel.com> of "Mon, 24 Jun 2002 10:35:53 PDT." <59885C5E3098D511AD690002A5072D3C02AB7F53@orsmsx111.jf.intel.com>
andrew.grover@intel.com said:
> If a device can be accessed by multiple machines concurrently, it
> should not be in driverfs.
On that argument, we'll eliminate almost all Fibre Channel devices!
I think the qualification for appearing in driverfs is actually possessing a
driver. Therefore, we accept FC and iSCSI. Things which appear as
FileSystems are debatable, but not anything which has a real device driver.
> We need a device tree to do PM. If driverfs's PM capabilities are hurt
> because it doesn't stay true to that, then the featureitis has gone
> too far.
Perhaps it's more a question of whether power management belongs as an every
unit item in driverfs. As you say, we get problems where the device is shared
between multiple computers.
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-06-24 18:09 UTC|newest]
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[not found] <andrew.grover@intel.com>
2002-06-24 17:35 ` driverfs is not for everything! (was: [PATCH] /proc/scsi/map ) Grover, Andrew
2002-06-24 17:48 ` driverfs is not for everything! (was: [PATCH] /proc/scsi/map kernel
2002-06-24 18:04 ` driverfs is not for everything! (was: [PATCH] /proc/scsi/map ) David Brownell
2002-06-24 18:04 ` David Brownell
2002-06-24 18:09 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2002-06-24 19:23 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-24 19:23 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-25 18:38 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-06-25 18:38 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-06-24 18:32 ` Roman Zippel
2002-06-24 18:32 ` Roman Zippel
2002-06-24 22:47 ` John Summerfield
2002-06-25 18:35 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-06-25 18:35 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-07-01 2:41 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <andrew.grover-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
[not found] ` <EDC461A30AC4D511ADE10002A5072CAD0236DE0D-OU+JdkIUtvd9zuciVAfUoVDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-04 0:57 ` Runlevel for Sleep? Lyle Seaman
2002-09-04 10:50 ` P. Christeas
[not found] ` <200209041055.g84AsFW05361-a1J+ToZc0kR3t0M9ZKkFCQ@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-04 14:14 ` Charl P. Botha
2002-09-04 14:35 ` Robert Wo"rle
2002-09-06 12:21 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20020906122153.F39-muQmgwBScQHrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-06 21:40 ` Patrick Mochel
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0209061411390.1021-100000-yZQdDDOm3n9ZQn2sFP3R7eTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-06 22:29 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20020906222930.GE8827-jyMamyUUXNJG4ohzP4jBZS1Fcj925eT/@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-06 23:18 ` P. Christeas
2002-09-07 5:02 ` Stephen L Johnson
[not found] ` <1031374944.1530.44.camel-EWEM0Crkbjs/2vX+WiJxEB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-07 19:51 ` Patrick Mochel
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0209071232170.1021-100000-yZQdDDOm3n9ZQn2sFP3R7eTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-08 11:23 ` P. Christeas
2002-09-09 8:46 ` Diego Zuccato
[not found] ` <3D7C5FDF.4FB4E759-gmoNqwowlqBr8A+qpt3pXFzrSV/HdtiB@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-09 8:50 ` P. Christeas
2002-09-09 23:52 ` Diego Zuccato
2002-09-13 17:13 ` Pavel Machek
2002-09-14 7:56 ` Andreas Lohrum
[not found] ` <20020913171338.GC7096-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-14 10:23 ` P. Christeas
[not found] ` <200209141237.g8ECb2d03519-a1J+ToZc0kR3t0M9ZKkFCQ@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-14 15:09 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <200209081126.g88BQjn05186-a1J+ToZc0kR3t0M9ZKkFCQ@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-13 17:08 ` Pavel Machek
2002-09-07 17:32 ` Lyle Seaman
2004-06-23 6:26 swsusp and ac status Daniele Boffi
[not found] ` <20040623082653.A26014-xzhXYMPkGmXoPXhRcRtihA@public.gmane.org>
2004-06-23 13:34 ` Stefan Seyfried
2004-06-24 19:53 ` Pavel Machek
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-07-25 23:28 [PATCH] Toshiba ACPI Extras 0.16 John Belmonte
[not found] ` <3F21BD11.8060405-ZFKsivP1bGvOQU1ULcgDhA@public.gmane.org>
2003-07-26 5:20 ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-07-18 5:27 [parisc-linux] cvs [login aborted]? Joel Soete
2003-07-18 11:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-07-18 14:44 ` bame
[not found] <pavel@suse.cz>
[not found] ` <20020917155146.F39-muQmgwBScQHrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-18 12:24 ` 2.5.34? Brad Parker
[not found] ` <200209181224.g8ICONr31147-paYRYfI9b/YMuHHiPFXXZ1fOaUvyCJUZ@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-18 12:53 ` 2.5.34? Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20040624195304.GE698-u08AdweFZfgxtPtxi4kahqVXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2004-06-29 11:50 ` swsusp and ac status Daniele Boffi
[not found] ` <200406291150.i5TBopX9001428-xzhXYMPkGmXoPXhRcRtihA@public.gmane.org>
2004-06-29 11:54 ` Pavel Machek
2002-09-16 0:14 2.5.34? Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
[not found] ` <20020916001425.82756.qmail-jIUPyM9ARX+A/QwVtaZbd3CJp6faPEW9@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-16 0:25 ` 2.5.34? Matthew Wilcox
[not found] ` <20020916012506.G10583-+pPCBgu9SkPzIGdyhVEDUDl5KyyQGfY2kSSpQ9I8OhVaa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-16 6:19 ` 2.5.34? Toon van der Pas
[not found] ` <20020916081909.A25876-FeupCOz82S5hxPbjSeLqYA@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-17 15:46 ` 2.5.34? Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20020917154653.C39-muQmgwBScQHrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-18 16:38 ` 2.5.34? Toon van der Pas
[not found] ` <20020918183819.A10275-FeupCOz82S5hxPbjSeLqYA@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-17 23:36 ` 2.5.34? Pavel Machek
2002-09-16 11:30 ` 2.5.34? Brad Parker
[not found] ` <200209161130.g8GBUo024143-paYRYfI9b/YMuHHiPFXXZ1fOaUvyCJUZ@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-16 15:33 ` 2.5.34? Matthew Wilcox
2002-09-17 15:49 ` 2.5.34? Pavel Machek
2002-09-03 23:47 Runlevel for Sleep? Grover, Andrew
2002-08-13 13:23 [parisc-linux] HP9000/L2000 + FC60 Fiber Support António Ribeiro
2002-08-13 13:29 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-08-15 6:01 ` Grant Grundler
2002-07-11 8:22 [parisc-linux] O_DIRECT on devices Patrick Caulfield
[not found] ` <3D2D4B4B.4010705@deaprofessionale.it>
2002-07-11 9:35 ` Patrick Caulfield
2002-07-15 2:46 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-07-15 7:42 ` Grant Grundler
2002-07-15 11:29 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-07-15 13:57 ` Patrick Caulfield
2002-07-15 14:10 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-07-15 14:23 ` Patrick Caulfield
[not found] ` <willy@debian.org>
[not found] ` <20020916163335.J10583-+pPCBgu9SkPzIGdyhVEDUDl5KyyQGfY2kSSpQ9I8OhVaa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-16 16:12 ` 2.5.34? Brad Parker
[not found] ` <200209161612.g8GGCtv24883-paYRYfI9b/YMuHHiPFXXZ1fOaUvyCJUZ@public.gmane.org>
2002-09-17 15:51 ` 2.5.34? Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20030726052012.GO1485-+pPCBgu9SkPzIGdyhVEDUDl5KyyQGfY2kSSpQ9I8OhVaa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2003-07-26 13:24 ` [PATCH] Toshiba ACPI Extras 0.16 Lyle Seaman
[not found] ` <20030726132501.C766314829-RAHWjsxJnJUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2003-07-26 17:18 ` M. Warner Losh
[not found] ` <20030726.111800.13461649.imp-uzTCJ5RojNnQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2003-07-26 22:09 ` John Belmonte
2003-07-26 21:32 ` John Belmonte
2003-07-26 21:25 ` John Belmonte
[not found] ` <3F22F1B0.9080607-ZFKsivP1bGvOQU1ULcgDhA@public.gmane.org>
2003-07-27 19:14 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-06-25 19:50 driverfs is not for everything! (was: [PATCH] /proc/scsi/map ) Adam J. Richter
2002-06-24 18:47 Grover, Andrew
2002-06-24 19:03 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-24 19:03 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-24 18:37 Grover, Andrew
2002-06-24 18:37 ` Grover, Andrew
2002-06-24 13:54 driverfs is not for everything! (was: [PATCH] /proc/scsi/map) Arnd Bergmann
2002-06-23 22:59 Grover, Andrew
2002-06-24 1:34 ` David Brownell
2002-06-24 5:18 ` Nick Bellinger
2002-06-24 6:41 ` Brad Hards
2002-06-25 18:18 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-06-25 18:18 ` Patrick Mochel
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