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From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: "Grover, Andrew" <andrew.grover@intel.com>
Cc: 'Nick Bellinger' <nickb@attheoffice.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	Patrick Mochel <mochel@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: driverfs is not for everything! (was:  [PATCH] /proc/scsi/map)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 18:34:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D16771E.2010401@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 59885C5E3098D511AD690002A5072D3C02AB7F52@orsmsx111.jf.intel.com

> Is the device PHYSICALLY hooked up to the computer? If not, it shouldn't be
> in devicefs.

What's "devicefs" -- some new filesystem?  Or a mis/re-naming of "driverfs"?
I assume you don't mean "devfs".


> The device tree (for which devicefs is the fs representation) was originally
> meant to enable good device power management and configuration. 

Surely a driver using IP-over-wire like iSCSI is no less deserving of appearing
in "driverfs" than one whose driver uses custom-protocol-over-a-"wire" like USB,
FireWire, FC, IR, SCSI, or Bluetooth?  I don't see why some disks (for example)
should deserve to be "more equal than others" -- and approved to be in driverfs.

Admittedly some of those may have few power management concerns beyond basic
startup/shutdown sequencing.  But the configuration management issues won't
go away just because a driver talks to a device over some more generalized
notion of wire.  I suspect those are probably more important, long-term, than
the power management hooks.  I seem to recall other operating systems starting
out with a device/driver tree well before power management existed, and was
surprised when I noticed Linux didn't have one yet.

No, of course driverfs isn't for everything.  But if it's not for all drivers,
then what's it for -- just power management?

- Dave


  reply	other threads:[~2002-06-24  1:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-23 22:59 driverfs is not for everything! (was: [PATCH] /proc/scsi/map) Grover, Andrew
2002-06-24  1:34 ` David Brownell [this message]
2002-06-24  5:18 ` Nick Bellinger
2002-06-24  6:41   ` Brad Hards
2002-06-25 18:18 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-06-25 18:18   ` Patrick Mochel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-06-24 13:54 Arnd Bergmann
     [not found] <andrew.grover@intel.com>
2002-06-24 17:35 ` driverfs is not for everything! (was: [PATCH] /proc/scsi/map ) Grover, Andrew
2002-06-24 18:04   ` David Brownell
2002-06-24 18:04   ` David Brownell
2002-06-24 18:09   ` James Bottomley
2002-06-24 19:23     ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-24 19:23       ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-25 18:38     ` Patrick Mochel
2002-06-25 18:38       ` Patrick Mochel
2002-06-24 18:32   ` Roman Zippel
2002-06-24 18:32     ` Roman Zippel
2002-06-24 22:47   ` John Summerfield
2002-06-25 18:35   ` Patrick Mochel
2002-06-25 18:35     ` Patrick Mochel
2002-07-01  2:41   ` Pavel Machek
2002-06-24 18:37 Grover, Andrew
2002-06-24 18:37 ` Grover, Andrew
2002-06-24 18:47 Grover, Andrew
2002-06-24 19:03 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-24 19:03   ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-25 19:50 Adam J. Richter

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