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From: Brad Hards <bhards@bigpond.net.au>
To: Nick Bellinger <nickb@attheoffice.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	Patrick Mochel <mochel@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: driverfs is not for everything! (was:  [PATCH] /proc/scsi/map)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 16:41:35 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200206241641.35604.bhards@bigpond.net.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1024895928.12662.192.camel@subjeKt>

On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 15:18, Nick Bellinger wrote:
> This is a red herring,  what exactly is the definition of physically
> hooked up to the computer?  In the above context it comes out as being a
> device inside the machine or within close proximity (ie: USB, IEEE 1394,
> etc) and connected by a physical cable.  If this is the case then what
> becomes of an Fibre Channel array 10km removed?  What makes this more or
> less likely to be in driverfs than a IP storage array that is
> "physically connected" via gigabit ethernet cable in the next room?  If
> you where getting at devices which use the IP stack exclusively, then
> how do iSCSI HBAs with TCP offload engines fit into the mix?  The only
> scenario where I see the above statement holding true is if one was to
> use iSCSI over a wireless/radio link, then it most definitely could NOT
> be part of driverfs. :)
I think if you are mounting the remote filesystem (or otherwise using it in 
some stateful way), then it appears in driverfs at mount time. This is 
because it becomes important at that point - you now have a dependency on the 
underlying transport (the PCI bus better not be shut down before I get the 
dirty pages out over the network card to the storage array).

Brad
-- 
http://conf.linux.org.au. 22-25Jan2003. Perth, Australia. Birds in Black.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-06-24  6:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-23 22:59 driverfs is not for everything! (was: [PATCH] /proc/scsi/map) Grover, Andrew
2002-06-24  1:34 ` David Brownell
2002-06-24  5:18 ` Nick Bellinger
2002-06-24  6:41   ` Brad Hards [this message]
2002-06-25 18:18 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-06-25 18:18   ` Patrick Mochel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-06-24 13:54 Arnd Bergmann
     [not found] <andrew.grover@intel.com>
2002-06-24 17:35 ` driverfs is not for everything! (was: [PATCH] /proc/scsi/map ) Grover, Andrew
2002-06-24 18:04   ` David Brownell
2002-06-24 18:04   ` David Brownell
2002-06-24 18:09   ` James Bottomley
2002-06-24 19:23     ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-24 19:23       ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-25 18:38     ` Patrick Mochel
2002-06-25 18:38       ` Patrick Mochel
2002-06-24 18:32   ` Roman Zippel
2002-06-24 18:32     ` Roman Zippel
2002-06-24 22:47   ` John Summerfield
2002-06-25 18:35   ` Patrick Mochel
2002-06-25 18:35     ` Patrick Mochel
2002-07-01  2:41   ` Pavel Machek
2002-06-24 18:37 Grover, Andrew
2002-06-24 18:37 ` Grover, Andrew
2002-06-24 18:47 Grover, Andrew
2002-06-24 19:03 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-24 19:03   ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-25 19:50 Adam J. Richter

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