From: Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>
To: "Randy.Dunlap" <rddunlap@osdl.org>
Cc: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>,
bcrl@redhat.com, akpm@digeo.com, mbligh@aracnet.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: 2.5.68-mm2
Date: 25 Apr 2003 14:27:32 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1051295252.9767.143.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030425112042.37493d02.rddunlap@osdl.org>
On Fri, 2003-04-25 at 14:20, Randy.Dunlap wrote:
>
> | The point is that even if bash is fixed it's desirable to address the
> | issue in the kernel, other applications may well misbehave as well.
>
> So when would this ever end?
Exactly what I was thinking.
The kernel cannot be expected to cater to applications or make
concessions (read: hacks) for certain behavior. If we offer a cleaner,
improved interface which offers the performance improvement, we are
done. Applications need to start using it.
Of course, I am not arguing against optimizing the old interfaces or
anything of that nature. I just believe we should not introduce hacks
for application behavior. It is their job to do the right thing.
Robert Love
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>
To: "Randy.Dunlap" <rddunlap@osdl.org>
Cc: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>,
bcrl@redhat.com, akpm@digeo.com, mbligh@aracnet.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: 2.5.68-mm2
Date: 25 Apr 2003 14:27:32 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1051295252.9767.143.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030425112042.37493d02.rddunlap@osdl.org>
On Fri, 2003-04-25 at 14:20, Randy.Dunlap wrote:
>
> | The point is that even if bash is fixed it's desirable to address the
> | issue in the kernel, other applications may well misbehave as well.
>
> So when would this ever end?
Exactly what I was thinking.
The kernel cannot be expected to cater to applications or make
concessions (read: hacks) for certain behavior. If we offer a cleaner,
improved interface which offers the performance improvement, we are
done. Applications need to start using it.
Of course, I am not arguing against optimizing the old interfaces or
anything of that nature. I just believe we should not introduce hacks
for application behavior. It is their job to do the right thing.
Robert Love
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-04-25 18:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-04-23 8:20 2.5.68-mm2 Andrew Morton
2003-04-23 8:20 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Andrew Morton
2003-04-23 9:59 ` 2.5.68-mm2 William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-23 9:59 ` 2.5.68-mm2 William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-23 16:50 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Robert Love
2003-04-23 16:50 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Robert Love
2003-04-23 16:57 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 16:57 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 17:11 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Robert Love
2003-04-23 17:11 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Robert Love
2003-04-24 9:14 ` 2.5.68-mm2 William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-24 9:14 ` 2.5.68-mm2 William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-23 12:08 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Ed Tomlinson
2003-04-23 12:37 ` 2.5.68-mm2 William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-23 14:25 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 14:51 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 14:51 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 15:14 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Alex Tomas
2003-04-23 15:14 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Alex Tomas
2003-04-23 21:46 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Andrew Morton
2003-04-23 21:46 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Andrew Morton
2003-04-23 21:47 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 21:47 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-24 3:39 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Benjamin LaHaise
2003-04-24 3:39 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Benjamin LaHaise
2003-04-24 21:13 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-24 21:13 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-24 23:13 ` objrmap (was 2.5.68-mm2) Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-24 23:13 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-24 3:36 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Benjamin LaHaise
2003-04-24 3:36 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Benjamin LaHaise
2003-04-24 20:24 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Bill Davidsen
2003-04-24 20:24 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Bill Davidsen
2003-04-24 20:33 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Benjamin LaHaise
2003-04-24 20:33 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Benjamin LaHaise
2003-04-25 17:56 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Bill Davidsen
2003-04-25 17:56 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Bill Davidsen
2003-04-25 18:20 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Randy.Dunlap
2003-04-25 18:20 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Randy.Dunlap
2003-04-25 18:27 ` Robert Love [this message]
2003-04-25 18:27 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Robert Love
2003-04-25 18:49 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-25 18:49 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-26 10:34 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Bill Davidsen
2003-04-26 10:34 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Bill Davidsen
2003-04-26 15:34 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-26 15:34 ` 2.5.68-mm2 Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-01 6:19 ` [BUG] 2.5.68-mm2 and list.h Alexander Hoogerhuis
2003-05-01 6:19 ` Alexander Hoogerhuis
2003-05-01 6:31 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-01 6:31 ` Andrew Morton
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