From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: "'Jason A. Donenfeld'" <Jason@zx2c4.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
"linux-s390@vger.kernel.org" <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
"Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Harald Freudenberger <freude@linux.ibm.com>,
"Michael Ellerman" <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v3] random: handle archrandom with multiple longs
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2022 09:36:34 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <10561a841a7342c882aabb0fbdbfc762@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yt5hwxC1xgvA8Asw@zx2c4.com>
...
> More directly, the reason we don't want to error is because the use case
> has fallbacks meant to handle errors. The cascade looks like this
> (quoting from the other email):
>
> unsigned long array[whatever];
> for (i = 0; i < ARRAY_SIZE(array);) {
> longs = arch_get_random_seed_longs(&array[i], ARRAY_SIZE(array) - i);
> if (longs) {
> i += longs;
> continue;
> }
> longs = arch_get_random_longs(&array[i], ARRAY_SIZE(array) - i);
> if (longs) {
> i += longs;
> continue;
> }
> array[i++] = random_get_entropy();
> }
>
> It tries to get the best that it can as much as it can, but isn't going
> to block or do anything too nuts for that.
Do you really want to retry the earlier calls that returned no data?
David
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WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: "'Jason A. Donenfeld'" <Jason@zx2c4.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
"linux-s390@vger.kernel.org" <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
Harald Freudenberger <freude@linux.ibm.com>,
"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v3] random: handle archrandom with multiple longs
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2022 09:36:34 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <10561a841a7342c882aabb0fbdbfc762@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yt5hwxC1xgvA8Asw@zx2c4.com>
...
> More directly, the reason we don't want to error is because the use case
> has fallbacks meant to handle errors. The cascade looks like this
> (quoting from the other email):
>
> unsigned long array[whatever];
> for (i = 0; i < ARRAY_SIZE(array);) {
> longs = arch_get_random_seed_longs(&array[i], ARRAY_SIZE(array) - i);
> if (longs) {
> i += longs;
> continue;
> }
> longs = arch_get_random_longs(&array[i], ARRAY_SIZE(array) - i);
> if (longs) {
> i += longs;
> continue;
> }
> array[i++] = random_get_entropy();
> }
>
> It tries to get the best that it can as much as it can, but isn't going
> to block or do anything too nuts for that.
Do you really want to retry the earlier calls that returned no data?
David
-
Registered Address Lakeside, Bramley Road, Mount Farm, Milton Keynes, MK1 1PT, UK
Registration No: 1397386 (Wales)
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: "'Jason A. Donenfeld'" <Jason@zx2c4.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
"linux-s390@vger.kernel.org" <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
"Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Harald Freudenberger <freude@linux.ibm.com>,
"Michael Ellerman" <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v3] random: handle archrandom with multiple longs
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2022 09:36:34 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <10561a841a7342c882aabb0fbdbfc762@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yt5hwxC1xgvA8Asw@zx2c4.com>
...
> More directly, the reason we don't want to error is because the use case
> has fallbacks meant to handle errors. The cascade looks like this
> (quoting from the other email):
>
> unsigned long array[whatever];
> for (i = 0; i < ARRAY_SIZE(array);) {
> longs = arch_get_random_seed_longs(&array[i], ARRAY_SIZE(array) - i);
> if (longs) {
> i += longs;
> continue;
> }
> longs = arch_get_random_longs(&array[i], ARRAY_SIZE(array) - i);
> if (longs) {
> i += longs;
> continue;
> }
> array[i++] = random_get_entropy();
> }
>
> It tries to get the best that it can as much as it can, but isn't going
> to block or do anything too nuts for that.
Do you really want to retry the earlier calls that returned no data?
David
-
Registered Address Lakeside, Bramley Road, Mount Farm, Milton Keynes, MK1 1PT, UK
Registration No: 1397386 (Wales)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-07-25 9:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-07-17 11:24 [PATCH] random: handle archrandom in plural words Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-17 11:43 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-17 20:03 ` [PATCH v2] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-17 20:03 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-17 20:03 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-17 20:03 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-18 6:31 ` Michael Ellerman
2022-07-18 6:31 ` Michael Ellerman
2022-07-18 6:31 ` Michael Ellerman
2022-07-18 6:46 ` Gabriel Paubert
2022-07-18 6:46 ` Gabriel Paubert
2022-07-18 6:46 ` Gabriel Paubert
2022-07-20 3:03 ` Michael Ellerman
2022-07-20 3:03 ` Michael Ellerman
2022-07-20 3:03 ` Michael Ellerman
2022-07-19 12:42 ` Mark Rutland
2022-07-19 12:42 ` Mark Rutland
2022-07-19 12:42 ` Mark Rutland
2022-07-19 12:46 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-19 12:46 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-19 12:46 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-19 13:02 ` [PATCH v3] random: handle archrandom with multiple longs Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-19 13:02 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-19 13:02 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-19 13:17 ` Mark Rutland
2022-07-19 13:17 ` Mark Rutland
2022-07-19 13:17 ` Mark Rutland
2022-07-19 13:48 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-19 13:48 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-19 13:48 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-22 12:06 ` Heiko Carstens
2022-07-22 12:06 ` Heiko Carstens
2022-07-22 12:06 ` Heiko Carstens
2022-07-24 22:47 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 9:19 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-07-25 9:19 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-07-25 9:19 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-07-25 9:26 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 9:26 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 9:26 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 9:36 ` David Laight [this message]
2022-07-25 9:36 ` David Laight
2022-07-25 9:36 ` David Laight
2022-07-25 9:37 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 9:37 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 9:37 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 11:10 ` [PATCH] random: discourage use of archrandom outside of rng Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-25 11:25 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-07-25 11:33 ` Heiko Carstens
2022-07-25 13:02 ` Mark Rutland
2022-07-25 11:25 ` [PATCH v3] random: handle archrandom with multiple longs Borislav Petkov
2022-07-25 11:25 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-07-25 11:25 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-08-01 14:46 ` Harald Freudenberger
2022-08-01 14:46 ` Harald Freudenberger
2022-08-01 14:46 ` Harald Freudenberger
2022-08-01 14:50 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-08-01 14:50 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-08-01 14:50 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-22 8:08 ` [PATCH v2] random: handle archrandom in plural words Holger Dengler
2022-07-22 8:08 ` Holger Dengler
2022-07-22 8:08 ` Holger Dengler
2022-07-22 11:22 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-22 11:22 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-22 11:22 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-08-03 12:01 ` Holger Dengler
2022-08-03 12:01 ` Holger Dengler
2022-08-03 12:01 ` Holger Dengler
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