Re: vaio doesn't poweroff with 2.4.22 (fwd)

Re: vaio doesn't poweroff with 2.4.22 (fwd)

[Len Brown]

On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 05:18, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> 	Hi Len, Marcelo,
> 
> On 2 Oct 2003, Len Brown wrote:
> > Is this still a problem w/ the latest build?
> 
> Yes (see below).
> 
> > Is there a bugzilla entry for it?
> 
> No.
> 
> Attached you can find my .config, and dmesg output, without and with
> acpi=force.
> 
> Without acpi=force:
> 
>   - `halt' doesn't halt (still running)
> 
>   - `reboot' doesn't work, and pseudo-halts the machine (black screen, but
>     power LED still lit)
> 

The dmesg you attached says this:

< ACPI disabled because your bios is from 00 and too old
< You can enable it with acpi=force
...
< ACPI: Interpreter disabled.

So I'd expect the CONFIG_ACPI !CONFIG_APM kernel to fail to poweroff the
system.

> With acpi=force,
> 
>   - `halt' works fine
> 
>   - `reboot' doesn't work, and pseudo-halts the machine (black screen, but
>     power LED still lit)
> In 2.4.21, both `halt' and `reboot' work fine.

Did you configure with ACPI in 2.4.21?
If you configured with APM in 2.4.21, you might consider sticking with
it rather than switching to ACPI in 2.4.22.

Also, if there is a BIOS update available for this system you should
consider it.

thanks,
-Len





> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 08:43:56 +0200 (MEST)
> > From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org>
> > To: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
> > Cc: Linux Kernel Development <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
> > Subject: Vaio doesn't poweroff with 2.4.22
> > 
> >         Hi,
> > 
> > With 2.4.22, my Sony Vaio PCG-Z600TEK (s/600/505/ in US/JP) shows a
> > regression
> > w.r.t. power management:
> >   - It doesn't poweroff anymore (screen contents are still there after
> > the
> >     powering down message)
> >   - It doesn't reboot anymore (screen goes black, though)
> >   - It accidentally suspended to RAM once while I was actively working
> > on it (I
> >     never managed to get suspend working, except for this `accident'). I
> > didn't
> >     see any messages about this in the kernel log.
> > 
> > Relevant config options for 2.4.22:
> > | tux$ grep acpi .config
> > | # ACPI Support
> > | CONFIG_ACPI=y
> > | # CONFIG_ACPI_HT_ONLY is not set
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_BOOT=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_BUS=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_INTERPRETER=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_PCI=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_AC=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=y
> > | # CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS is not set
> > | # CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA is not set
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG=y
> > | # CONFIG_ACPI_RELAXED_AML is not set
> > | tux$ 
> > 
> > Relevant config options for 2.4.21, which does poweroff/reboot without
> > problems:
> > | tux$ grep acpi .config
> > | # CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_ACPI is not set
> > | CONFIG_ACPI=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_BUSMGR=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_SYS=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_CPU=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_AC=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_CMBATT=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=y
> > | tux$ 
> > 
> > If you need more information or want me to ttry something, please ask!
> 
> Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
> 
> 						Geert
> 
> --
> Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org
> 
> In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
> when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
> 							    -- Linus Torvalds

Re: vaio doesn't poweroff with 2.4.22 (fwd)

[Len Brown]

On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 05:18, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> 	Hi Len, Marcelo,
> 
> On 2 Oct 2003, Len Brown wrote:
> > Is this still a problem w/ the latest build?
> 
> Yes (see below).
> 
> > Is there a bugzilla entry for it?
> 
> No.
> 
> Attached you can find my .config, and dmesg output, without and with
> acpi=force.
> 
> Without acpi=force:
> 
>   - `halt' doesn't halt (still running)
> 
>   - `reboot' doesn't work, and pseudo-halts the machine (black screen, but
>     power LED still lit)
> 

The dmesg you attached says this:

< ACPI disabled because your bios is from 00 and too old
< You can enable it with acpi=force
...
< ACPI: Interpreter disabled.

So I'd expect the CONFIG_ACPI !CONFIG_APM kernel to fail to poweroff the
system.

> With acpi=force,
> 
>   - `halt' works fine
> 
>   - `reboot' doesn't work, and pseudo-halts the machine (black screen, but
>     power LED still lit)
> In 2.4.21, both `halt' and `reboot' work fine.

Did you configure with ACPI in 2.4.21?
If you configured with APM in 2.4.21, you might consider sticking with
it rather than switching to ACPI in 2.4.22.

Also, if there is a BIOS update available for this system you should
consider it.

thanks,
-Len





> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 08:43:56 +0200 (MEST)
> > From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
> > To: acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Cc: Linux Kernel Development <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
> > Subject: Vaio doesn't poweroff with 2.4.22
> > 
> >         Hi,
> > 
> > With 2.4.22, my Sony Vaio PCG-Z600TEK (s/600/505/ in US/JP) shows a
> > regression
> > w.r.t. power management:
> >   - It doesn't poweroff anymore (screen contents are still there after
> > the
> >     powering down message)
> >   - It doesn't reboot anymore (screen goes black, though)
> >   - It accidentally suspended to RAM once while I was actively working
> > on it (I
> >     never managed to get suspend working, except for this `accident'). I
> > didn't
> >     see any messages about this in the kernel log.
> > 
> > Relevant config options for 2.4.22:
> > | tux$ grep acpi .config
> > | # ACPI Support
> > | CONFIG_ACPI=y
> > | # CONFIG_ACPI_HT_ONLY is not set
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_BOOT=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_BUS=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_INTERPRETER=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_PCI=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_AC=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=y
> > | # CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS is not set
> > | # CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA is not set
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG=y
> > | # CONFIG_ACPI_RELAXED_AML is not set
> > | tux$ 
> > 
> > Relevant config options for 2.4.21, which does poweroff/reboot without
> > problems:
> > | tux$ grep acpi .config
> > | # CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_ACPI is not set
> > | CONFIG_ACPI=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_BUSMGR=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_SYS=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_CPU=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_AC=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_CMBATT=y
> > | CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=y
> > | tux$ 
> > 
> > If you need more information or want me to ttry something, please ask!
> 
> Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
> 
> 						Geert
> 
> --
> Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org
> 
> In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
> when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
> 							    -- Linus Torvalds

Re: vaio doesn't poweroff with 2.4.22 (fwd)

[Dave Jones]

On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 04:55:11PM -0400, Len Brown wrote:

 > > In 2.4.21, both `halt' and `reboot' work fine.
 > Did you configure with ACPI in 2.4.21?
 > If you configured with APM in 2.4.21, you might consider sticking with
 > it rather than switching to ACPI in 2.4.22.

So power-off on shutdown with acpi is actually working for some folks?
None of my boxes seem to work with it any more. I'm not sure when
this started, but its been that way for a while, in both 2.4 and 2.6test

 > Also, if there is a BIOS update available for this system you should
 > consider it.

Rocking horse poop is probably easier to find than Sony VAIO BIOS updates. 
I spent an afternoon once being bounced around from one Sony
flash-ridden site to another to no avail..

		Dave

-- 
 Dave Jones     http://www.codemonkey.org.uk

Re: vaio doesn't poweroff with 2.4.22 (fwd)

[Dave Jones]

On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 04:55:11PM -0400, Len Brown wrote:

 > > In 2.4.21, both `halt' and `reboot' work fine.
 > Did you configure with ACPI in 2.4.21?
 > If you configured with APM in 2.4.21, you might consider sticking with
 > it rather than switching to ACPI in 2.4.22.

So power-off on shutdown with acpi is actually working for some folks?
None of my boxes seem to work with it any more. I'm not sure when
this started, but its been that way for a while, in both 2.4 and 2.6test

 > Also, if there is a BIOS update available for this system you should
 > consider it.

Rocking horse poop is probably easier to find than Sony VAIO BIOS updates. 
I spent an afternoon once being bounced around from one Sony
flash-ridden site to another to no avail..

		Dave

-- 
 Dave Jones     http://www.codemonkey.org.uk

Re: vaio doesn't poweroff with 2.4.22 (fwd)

[Stan Bubrouski]

Dave Jones wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 04:55:11PM -0400, Len Brown wrote:
> 
>  > > In 2.4.21, both `halt' and `reboot' work fine.
>  > Did you configure with ACPI in 2.4.21?
>  > If you configured with APM in 2.4.21, you might consider sticking with
>  > it rather than switching to ACPI in 2.4.22.
> 
> So power-off on shutdown with acpi is actually working for some folks?
> None of my boxes seem to work with it any more. I'm not sure when
> this started, but its been that way for a while, in both 2.4 and 2.6test
> 
>  > Also, if there is a BIOS update available for this system you should
>  > consider it.
> 
> Rocking horse poop is probably easier to find than Sony VAIO BIOS updates. 
> I spent an afternoon once being bounced around from one Sony
> flash-ridden site to another to no avail..
> 
> 		Dave
> 

You can find bios updates at http://ciscdb.sel.sony.com/cgi-bin/select-p-n.pl
if you go to drivers and select other OS, but the bios
updates are listed as runnable in XP...

-sb

Re: vaio doesn't poweroff with 2.4.22 (fwd)

[Stan Bubrouski]

Dave Jones wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 04:55:11PM -0400, Len Brown wrote:
> 
>  > > In 2.4.21, both `halt' and `reboot' work fine.
>  > Did you configure with ACPI in 2.4.21?
>  > If you configured with APM in 2.4.21, you might consider sticking with
>  > it rather than switching to ACPI in 2.4.22.
> 
> So power-off on shutdown with acpi is actually working for some folks?
> None of my boxes seem to work with it any more. I'm not sure when
> this started, but its been that way for a while, in both 2.4 and 2.6test
> 
>  > Also, if there is a BIOS update available for this system you should
>  > consider it.
> 
> Rocking horse poop is probably easier to find than Sony VAIO BIOS updates. 
> I spent an afternoon once being bounced around from one Sony
> flash-ridden site to another to no avail..
> 
> 		Dave
> 

You can find bios updates at http://ciscdb.sel.sony.com/cgi-bin/select-p-n.pl
if you go to drivers and select other OS, but the bios
updates are listed as runnable in XP...

-sb

Re: Re: vaio doesn't poweroff with 2.4.22 (fwd)

[Casey Harkins]

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 04:55:11PM -0400, Len Brown wrote:
>
>  > > In 2.4.21, both `halt' and `reboot' work fine.
>  > Did you configure with ACPI in 2.4.21?
>  > If you configured with APM in 2.4.21, you might consider sticking with
>  > it rather than switching to ACPI in 2.4.22.
>
> So power-off on shutdown with acpi is actually working for some folks?
> None of my boxes seem to work with it any more. I'm not sure when
> this started, but its been that way for a while, in both 2.4 and 2.6test
>

power-off on shutdown is working on all my boxen (all varying
motherboards) with 2.4.19 through 2.4.22, with or without the acpi
patches. Even have a Sony vaio picturebook (c1vn) with 2.4.19 which works.
I'll get it up to date and see if 2.4.22 breaks it.

-casey




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Re: vaio doesn't poweroff with 2.4.22 (fwd)

[Geert Uytterhoeven]

On 7 Oct 2003, Len Brown wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 05:18, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > On 2 Oct 2003, Len Brown wrote:
> > > Is this still a problem w/ the latest build?
> > 
> > Yes (see below).
> > 
> > > Is there a bugzilla entry for it?
> > 
> > No.
> > 
> > Attached you can find my .config, and dmesg output, without and with
> > acpi=force.
> > 
> > Without acpi=force:
> > 
> >   - `halt' doesn't halt (still running)
> > 
> >   - `reboot' doesn't work, and pseudo-halts the machine (black screen, but
> >     power LED still lit)
> 
> The dmesg you attached says this:
> 
> < ACPI disabled because your bios is from 00 and too old
> < You can enable it with acpi=force
> ...
> < ACPI: Interpreter disabled.
> 
> So I'd expect the CONFIG_ACPI !CONFIG_APM kernel to fail to poweroff the
> system.
> 
> > With acpi=force,
> > 
> >   - `halt' works fine
> > 
> >   - `reboot' doesn't work, and pseudo-halts the machine (black screen, but
> >     power LED still lit)
> > In 2.4.21, both `halt' and `reboot' work fine.
> 
> Did you configure with ACPI in 2.4.21?

Yes. It worked fine for halt/reboot up to and including 2.4.21.

> If you configured with APM in 2.4.21, you might consider sticking with
> it rather than switching to ACPI in 2.4.22.

I tried APM in 2.4.23-pre6, and it can halt the machine, but not reboot it.
Now I remember, because APM had problems with reboot or halt, I switched to
ACPI in the first place, when I got the machine 2.5 years ago.

`apm -s' does work now, though (which came as a surprise, since it didn't work
the first time I tried it a long time ago).

> Also, if there is a BIOS update available for this system you should
> consider it.

I went to the website Stan mentioned, and it doesn't seem to list the European
models. Since the Z600 series is called Z505 in US/JP, it may work with one of
the Z505 updates, though. However, I saw updates for W2000/XP only, not for the
BIOS.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

						Geert

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when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
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Re: vaio doesn't poweroff with 2.4.22 (fwd)

[Geert Uytterhoeven]

On 7 Oct 2003, Len Brown wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 05:18, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > On 2 Oct 2003, Len Brown wrote:
> > > Is this still a problem w/ the latest build?
> > 
> > Yes (see below).
> > 
> > > Is there a bugzilla entry for it?
> > 
> > No.
> > 
> > Attached you can find my .config, and dmesg output, without and with
> > acpi=force.
> > 
> > Without acpi=force:
> > 
> >   - `halt' doesn't halt (still running)
> > 
> >   - `reboot' doesn't work, and pseudo-halts the machine (black screen, but
> >     power LED still lit)
> 
> The dmesg you attached says this:
> 
> < ACPI disabled because your bios is from 00 and too old
> < You can enable it with acpi=force
> ...
> < ACPI: Interpreter disabled.
> 
> So I'd expect the CONFIG_ACPI !CONFIG_APM kernel to fail to poweroff the
> system.
> 
> > With acpi=force,
> > 
> >   - `halt' works fine
> > 
> >   - `reboot' doesn't work, and pseudo-halts the machine (black screen, but
> >     power LED still lit)
> > In 2.4.21, both `halt' and `reboot' work fine.
> 
> Did you configure with ACPI in 2.4.21?

Yes. It worked fine for halt/reboot up to and including 2.4.21.

> If you configured with APM in 2.4.21, you might consider sticking with
> it rather than switching to ACPI in 2.4.22.

I tried APM in 2.4.23-pre6, and it can halt the machine, but not reboot it.
Now I remember, because APM had problems with reboot or halt, I switched to
ACPI in the first place, when I got the machine 2.5 years ago.

`apm -s' does work now, though (which came as a surprise, since it didn't work
the first time I tried it a long time ago).

> Also, if there is a BIOS update available for this system you should
> consider it.

I went to the website Stan mentioned, and it doesn't seem to list the European
models. Since the Z600 series is called Z505 in US/JP, it may work with one of
the Z505 updates, though. However, I saw updates for W2000/XP only, not for the
BIOS.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

						Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
							    -- Linus Torvalds