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From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
To: "Zhao, Yan Y" <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
Cc: "Hansen, Dave" <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	"seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>,
	"kas@kernel.org" <kas@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/17] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Centralize updates to present external PTEs
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2026 17:21:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <10949597e3e49a0e59ecb2345be9e06554646d96.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adTBiKPanE15vtjS@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com>

On Tue, 2026-04-07 at 16:34 +0800, Yan Zhao wrote:
> Below is the list of all handle_changed_spte()-related scenarios.
> 
> Legends:
> NP: !shadow-present SPTE
> P:  shadow-present SPTE
> X: Yes or No.
> shared: hold shared mmu_lock or not
> valid: valid scenario in TDP MMU
> mirror root allowed: could this scenario occur in the mirror root (after basic
>                       TDX huge page support)
> KVM_BUG_ON() hittable: is KVM_BUG_ON() in handle_changed_spte() hittable.
> 
> Scenarios 1-5 are for mapping,
> Scenarios 6-10 are for shadow-present to shadow-present transitions.
> Scenarios 11-14 are for zapping.
> 
>                                             |mirror root| KVM_BUG_ON()
>  # | old_spte  | new_spte  | shared | valid | allowed   | hittable
> ---|-----------|-----------|--------|-------|-----------|-----------------------
>  1 |    NP     |    leaf P |   Y    |  Y    |     Y     |    N
>  2 |    NP     |    leaf P |   N    |  Y    |     N     |    Y (a1)
>  3 |    NP     | nonleaf P |   Y    |  Y    |     Y     |    N
>  4 |    NP     | nonleaf P |   N    |  Y    |     N     |    Y (a2)
>  5 |    NP     |    NP     |   X    |  N    |     N     | warn !mmio_spte && !frozen_spte
> ---|-----------|-----------|--------|-------|-----------|-----------------------
>  6 |    leaf P |    leaf P |   X    |  N    |     X     |    N
>  7 |    leaf P | nonleaf P |   Y    |  Y    |     N     |    N
>  8 |    leaf P | nonleaf P |   N    |  Y    |     Y     |    N
>  9 | nonleaf P |    leaf P |   X    |  Y    |     N     |    Y (b)
> 10 | nonleaf P | nonleaf P |   X    |  N    |     X     | warn pfn_changed
> ---|-----------|-----------|--------|-------|-----------|-----------------------
> 11 |    leaf P |    NP     |   Y    |  Y    |     N     |    N (c)
> 12 |    leaf P |    NP     |   N    |  Y    |     Y     |    N
> 13 | nonleaf P |    NP     |   Y    |  Y    |     N     |    Y (d)
> 14 | nonleaf P |    NP     |   N    |  Y    |     Y     |    N

Wow Yan! This is amazing.

> 
> 
> Currently, only 4 scenarios (a1),(a2), (b), (d) may trigger KVM_BUG_ON() in
> handle_changed_spte(), but none of them are currently reachable by mirror root.

Great.

> 
> 
> (a1)(a2) May hit KVM_BUG_ON() in handle_changed_spte() if
>          tdx_sept_set_private_spte() fails due to contentions. e.g.,
>          tdh_mem_sept_add(), tdx_mem_page_aug(), or tdx_mem_page_add() may
>          contend with tdh_vp_enter() due to zero-step mitigation or may
>          potentially contend with TDCALLs.
> (b) Promotion case. Currently unreachable in mirror root.
>     Need more complex changes in TDP MMU if we want to support it in the future.
> (c) Will not hit KVM_BUG_ON() in TDP MMU, but will trigger warnings in
>     tdx_sept_remove_private_spte() due to lockdep_assert_held_write() or
>     TDX_BUG_ON() caused by concurrent BLOCK, TRACK, REMOVE.
> (d) May hit the KVM_BUG_ON() in handle_changed_spte() due to failure to remove
>     child S-EPT entries and will trigger warnings in
>     tdx_sept_remove_private_spte() due to lockdep_assert_held_write() or
>     TDX_BUG_ON() caused by concurrent BLOCK, TRACK, REMOVE.
>     May also trigger TDX_BUG_ON() in tdx_sept_reclaim_private_spt().

Ok! I wonder if we could (not for this series) encode this information into some
centralized helper on the TDX side. It's nice to see it all together. Not sure
on the idea.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-07 17:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-27 20:14 [PATCH 00/17] TDX MMU refactors Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 01/17] x86/tdx: Use pg_level in TDX APIs, not the TDX-Module's 0-based level Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 02/17] KVM: x86/mmu: Update iter->old_spte if cmpxchg64 on mirror SPTE "fails" Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-31  9:47   ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-31  9:17     ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-31  9:59       ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-31  9:22         ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-31 10:14           ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 03/17] KVM: TDX: Account all non-transient page allocations for per-TD structures Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 04/17] KVM: x86: Make "external SPTE" ops that can fail RET0 static calls Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 05/17] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Drop zapping KVM_BUG_ON() set_external_spte_present() Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 06/17] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Morph the !is_frozen_spte() check into a KVM_MMU_WARN_ON() Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-30  5:00   ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-31 16:37     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-02  1:06       ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-02 19:21         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-03  2:47           ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 07/17] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Centralize updates to present external PTEs Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-30  6:14   ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-01 23:45     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-02  1:59       ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-02 23:10         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-02 23:28           ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-03  9:05             ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-04  0:15               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-07  8:34                 ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-07 17:21                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2026-04-08  1:23                     ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-03  9:08           ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-31 10:09   ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-01 23:58     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-02 23:21       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-01  8:34   ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-02 23:46     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-03 10:33       ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-08  1:50         ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-08 10:47   ` Binbin Wu
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 08/17] KVM: TDX: Drop kvm_x86_ops.link_external_spt(), use .set_external_spte() for all Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-30  6:28   ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 09/17] KVM: TDX: Add helper to handle mapping leaf SPTE into S-EPT Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-30  6:43   ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-01 23:59     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 10/17] KVM: TDX: Move set_external_spte_present() assert into TDX code Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-31 10:30   ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-02  0:00     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-31 10:34   ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 11/17] KVM: x86/mmu: Fold set_external_spte_present() into its sole caller Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-31 10:36   ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-01  7:41   ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 12/17] KVM: x86/mmu: Plumb the old_spte into kvm_x86_ops.set_external_spte() Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 13/17] KVM: TDX: Hoist tdx_sept_remove_private_spte() above set_private_spte() Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-31 10:42   ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-02  0:04     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 14/17] KVM: x86/mmu: Remove KVM_BUG_ON() that checks lock when removing PTs Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-30  7:01   ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-31 10:46     ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-02  0:08       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-02  2:04         ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 15/17] KVM: TDX: Handle removal of leaf SPTEs in .set_private_spte() Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 16/17] KVM: x86: Move error handling inside free_external_spt() Rick Edgecombe
2026-04-09  2:08   ` Binbin Wu
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 17/17] KVM: TDX: Move external page table freeing to TDX code Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-30  7:49   ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-02  0:17     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-02  2:16       ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-02  2:17         ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-31 11:02   ` Huang, Kai

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