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From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
To: "Zhao, Yan Y" <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
Cc: "Hansen, Dave" <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	"seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>,
	"Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>,
	"kas@kernel.org" <kas@kernel.org>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/17] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Centralize updates to present external PTEs
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2026 23:46:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2b1d462bfed958e163eef913a1149a807453892b.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aczYjEVkva3zOpwz@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com>

On Wed, 2026-04-01 at 16:34 +0800, Yan Zhao wrote:
> Issue #2:
> "Additionally, if an SPTE is atomically zapped, is_present evaluates to false.
>  Because tdp_mmu_set_spte_atomic() lacks a fallback remove_external_spte()
>  call like the non-atomic tdp_mmu_set_spte() has, does this mean the external
>  S-EPT mapping remains fully present while KVM marks it as non-present?
> "
> 
> Response:
> Up to this patch, this seems to be a valid concern. But atomic zap on the mirror
> root isn't allowed yet (though warning on such case is dropped in patch 5 [2]).
> Centralizing atomic zap to __handle_changed_spte() will be done in patch 15 [3].
> Maybe move patch 5 to after patch 15?
> 
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20260327201421.2824383-6-rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com/
> [3] https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20260327201421.2824383-16-rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com/
> [4] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260106102024.25023-1-yan.y.zhao@intel.com/

Thanks for checking the AI reviews. I'll see how it slots in there.

> 
> Thinking more about centralizing TDX hooks, could we be more aggressive? i.e.,
> let TDX just have a single hook set_external_spte() for propagation of changes
> from mirror page table to S-EPT?
> (below change is on code base with TDX huge page support).

I was asking Yan internally why this works but Sean's earlier attempt failed.
Yan, let's finish the discussion externally now that Sean is poking around.

I'd be inclined to kind to call the cleanup a win and leave further unification
for the future. At least not going turning over rocks.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-02 23:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-27 20:14 [PATCH 00/17] TDX MMU refactors Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 01/17] x86/tdx: Use pg_level in TDX APIs, not the TDX-Module's 0-based level Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 02/17] KVM: x86/mmu: Update iter->old_spte if cmpxchg64 on mirror SPTE "fails" Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-31  9:47   ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-31  9:17     ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-31  9:59       ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-31  9:22         ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-31 10:14           ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 03/17] KVM: TDX: Account all non-transient page allocations for per-TD structures Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 04/17] KVM: x86: Make "external SPTE" ops that can fail RET0 static calls Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 05/17] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Drop zapping KVM_BUG_ON() set_external_spte_present() Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 06/17] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Morph the !is_frozen_spte() check into a KVM_MMU_WARN_ON() Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-30  5:00   ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-31 16:37     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-02  1:06       ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-02 19:21         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-03  2:47           ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 07/17] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Centralize updates to present external PTEs Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-30  6:14   ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-01 23:45     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-02  1:59       ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-02 23:10         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-02 23:28           ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-03  9:05             ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-04  0:15               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-07  8:34                 ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-07 17:21                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-08  1:23                     ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-03  9:08           ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-31 10:09   ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-01 23:58     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-02 23:21       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-01  8:34   ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-02 23:46     ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2026-04-03 10:33       ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-08  1:50         ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-08 10:47   ` Binbin Wu
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 08/17] KVM: TDX: Drop kvm_x86_ops.link_external_spt(), use .set_external_spte() for all Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-30  6:28   ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 09/17] KVM: TDX: Add helper to handle mapping leaf SPTE into S-EPT Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-30  6:43   ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-01 23:59     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 10/17] KVM: TDX: Move set_external_spte_present() assert into TDX code Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-31 10:30   ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-02  0:00     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-31 10:34   ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 11/17] KVM: x86/mmu: Fold set_external_spte_present() into its sole caller Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-31 10:36   ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-01  7:41   ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 12/17] KVM: x86/mmu: Plumb the old_spte into kvm_x86_ops.set_external_spte() Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 13/17] KVM: TDX: Hoist tdx_sept_remove_private_spte() above set_private_spte() Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-31 10:42   ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-02  0:04     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 14/17] KVM: x86/mmu: Remove KVM_BUG_ON() that checks lock when removing PTs Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-30  7:01   ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-31 10:46     ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-02  0:08       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-02  2:04         ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 15/17] KVM: TDX: Handle removal of leaf SPTEs in .set_private_spte() Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 16/17] KVM: x86: Move error handling inside free_external_spt() Rick Edgecombe
2026-04-09  2:08   ` Binbin Wu
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 17/17] KVM: TDX: Move external page table freeing to TDX code Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-30  7:49   ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-02  0:17     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-02  2:16       ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-02  2:17         ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-31 11:02   ` Huang, Kai

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