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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Willy Tarreau <willy@w.ods.org>
Cc: "Jeff V. Merkey" <jmerkey@drdos.com>,
	jonathan@jonmasters.org,
	"jmerkey@comcast.net" <jmerkey@comcast.net>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Possible GPL Violation of Linux in Amstrad's E3 Videophone
Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 23:01:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1096840917.16384.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041003114602.GA19761@alpha.home.local>

On Sul, 2004-10-03 at 12:46, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> care, I did not do it. Just told the customer that if he wanted, he could
> have everything, but when he replies "no thanks", I have no motivation
> loosing my time. So from time to time, I put together new patches on my

Which meets the GPL file. Customer can also be expected to work "diff"
unless you are doing daft stuff like obfuscating existing code.

> As long as vendors are honnest, and respect their customers' rights, I
> don't see any problem. The problem arises when vendors explicitly refuse
> to open anything. But most of the time, I suspect it's just a matter of
> time and cleanness, and we should not expect too much from vendors who
> already acknowledge that they are using GPL software and that they are
> doing their best to publish the code ASAP.

On the little embedded box side there is certainly a lot of systematic
abuse, especially in asian originated products. (And I justify the
otherwise apparently racist remark with the statistics).

> > 	GPL v 2 blah bla 
> > 
> > 	or you may choose to distribute the software without source
> > 	code for $100,000 per product you ship it in.
> > 
> > This would then also give both a Judge and the thief a clear crystalised
> > value for damages....
> 
> Hmmm interesting clause which would make them think before they steal the
> code. Perhaps they would take more time to separate open and closed code
> then. The problem is to define whom this money should be sent to.

Well I was thinking the $100,000 would just be for the bits I wrote in
that one file or that one driver, ....

Alan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-10-03 23:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-01 17:40 Possible GPL Violation of Linux in Amstrad's E3 Videophone jmerkey
2004-10-01 18:23 ` Jesse Pollard
2004-10-01 19:34 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-10-01 19:46   ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-01 20:38     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-01 20:40     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-10-01 22:09 ` Jon Masters
2004-10-01 21:53   ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-01 23:51     ` Michael Poole
2004-10-02  2:00     ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]       ` <20041002064620.GA8568@galt.devicelogics.com>
2004-10-02 10:27         ` Jon Masters
2004-10-02 17:34     ` Alan Cox
2004-10-03 11:46       ` Willy Tarreau
2004-10-03 11:59         ` Jon Masters
2004-10-03 22:01         ` Alan Cox [this message]
2004-10-04  0:23           ` Kyle Moffett
2004-10-07 19:21       ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-07 20:24         ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-07 21:22           ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-07 22:32             ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-07 22:57             ` Hua Zhong
2004-10-08  8:19             ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2004-10-07 21:07         ` Rik van Riel
2004-10-07 21:16           ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-07 21:40         ` Kyle Moffett
2004-10-07 21:17           ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-07 22:02             ` Kyle Moffett
2004-10-07 21:29               ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-08 12:27                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-08 18:24                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-08 18:42                     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-09  9:50                       ` James Courtier-Dutton
2004-10-08 12:16               ` Alan Cox
2004-10-07 22:18             ` Dave Jones
2004-10-07 21:51               ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-07 22:41                 ` Dave Jones
2004-10-08  0:47                   ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-07 23:50                 ` viro
2004-10-08  0:40                 ` Jesper Juhl
2004-10-08  0:59                   ` Jon Masters
     [not found]                     ` <20041008032034.GD3528@galt.devicelogics.com>
2004-10-08  7:15                       ` Jon Masters
2004-10-08 12:38                         ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-08 12:50                           ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-08 13:48                           ` Bruce Ferrell
2004-10-08 15:14                             ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-08  2:48                 ` Erik Andersen
2004-10-10  6:35               ` Brian Litzinger
2004-10-10 13:25                 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-10 22:26                   ` Jon Masters
2004-10-11 11:57                     ` Tonnerre
2004-10-08  2:40         ` Erik Andersen
2004-10-08  8:50           ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2004-10-08 11:08             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-04 20:26     ` Jesse Pollard
2004-10-02 12:35 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2004-10-04 18:03 ` Bill Davidsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-09-29 13:44 Ralph Corderoy
2004-10-01 14:52 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-10-01 14:20   ` Alan Cox
2004-10-01 15:59     ` Ralph Corderoy
2004-10-01 16:00       ` Alan Cox
2004-10-01 16:24       ` Jon Masters
2004-10-01 15:59         ` Alan Cox
2004-10-01 17:18           ` Jon Masters
2005-01-07 21:48           ` Jonathan McDowell
2005-01-15 13:43             ` Jonathan McDowell
2005-01-26 16:47               ` Jonathan McDowell
2004-10-01 17:24       ` Tigran Aivazian
2004-10-01 16:14     ` James Courtier-Dutton

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