From: Jon Masters <jonathan@jonmasters.org>
To: jmerkey@galt.devicelogics.com
Cc: Jesper Juhl <juhl-lkml@dif.dk>,
"Jeff V. Merkey" <jmerkey@drdos.com>,
Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>, Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
"jmerkey@comcast.net" <jmerkey@comcast.net>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Possible GPL Violation of Linux in Amstrad's E3 Videophone
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:15:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <41663E8A.10604@jonmasters.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041008032034.GD3528@galt.devicelogics.com>
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jmerkey@galt.devicelogics.com wrote:
[ Would you please quite removing the attribution from mailing list
posts? I know you don't care to keep it in the kernel, but at least let
people know who said what in this completely pointless thread... ]
Jesper>>| There are other rewards than money.
jcm>> Al summed it up quite well earlier. Jeff probably wants to get the
jcm>> lining on his tinfoil hat thickened to avoid the brain lazers
getting in
jcm>> any further. Check those bushes for Novell snipers too - you never
know
jcm>> when they'll pop out and come to get you, like everyone else
everywhere.
*Strong medication*. Very strong. Now with added eucalyptus! It'll make
removing all that code easier. Ya know, you don't like cdrom support in
your kernel (and claim it corrupts memory on your SuSE box...that's
cute) but I've never much like memory management or CPU support in my
kernel. I say you rip out everything under kernel/ and mm/ just in case.
After all, Novell operatives might have secretly corrupted it, eh? ;-).
|>50,000USD is a patheticly small amount to pay for the kernel, there's
|>nothing wrong with the current licensing model, and people already make
|>big bucks from Linux. Several of those aren't just dot-coms that went
|>tits up later either - and most of them emply core kernel hackers.
I meant that too. Just think about it - with the number of contributors
in the kernel you'll have to offer a lot of money before even a few of
them start to hear cash register sounds in their head. I expect it is
graphable, but I've never actually that eye-rolling-dollar-sign thing
that happens in the various cartoons. By the time it's diluted down, is
the guy entitled to 0.05 cents really going to be suddenly convinced
that all this time he was secretly after money but didn't realize it?
| Not for a license to a single snapshot of a single 2.6.X or 2.4.X
| version.
I'd argue that the kernel is entirely priceless. It's better than that,
more advanced, now extra-caffeinated with added pro-V complex!
| I agree this isn't about money.
...oh but you think this pointless endeavour of yours will actually get
you somewhere other than in even more killfiles. I really shouldn't feed
the troll but it's oh so hard to resist. I mean, you seem like a fun
crazy sort of guy. So far I've seen:
~ *). Intense bitterness at Novell.
~ *). Signs of paranoid delusion.
~ *). A fundamental missunderstanding of the GPL.
~ *). Various other random craziness.
Tell me, Mr Jeff, of various mail domains (does that make you feel
bigger and better than the rest of us?) are you funded by Microsoft to
suggest this stuff or do you truly believe it? Really? Truly? I mean,
I'd much rather hear you're being paid to say this shite.
| It's about control and using the GPL to control what happens.
...by undermininging it and opening the floor to bribary. What would
those damn Novell snipers say about that?
| The offer is for real.
I doubt that greatly. Actually no, I don't. I believe there are crazy
people in the US with lots of money who'll think this is a good idea.
Jon.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-10-08 7:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-10-01 17:40 Possible GPL Violation of Linux in Amstrad's E3 Videophone jmerkey
2004-10-01 18:23 ` Jesse Pollard
2004-10-01 19:34 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-10-01 19:46 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-01 20:38 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-01 20:40 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-10-01 22:09 ` Jon Masters
2004-10-01 21:53 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-01 23:51 ` Michael Poole
2004-10-02 2:00 ` Theodore Ts'o
[not found] ` <20041002064620.GA8568@galt.devicelogics.com>
2004-10-02 10:27 ` Jon Masters
2004-10-02 17:34 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-03 11:46 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-10-03 11:59 ` Jon Masters
2004-10-03 22:01 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-04 0:23 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-10-07 19:21 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-07 20:24 ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-07 21:22 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-07 22:32 ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-07 22:57 ` Hua Zhong
2004-10-08 8:19 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2004-10-07 21:07 ` Rik van Riel
2004-10-07 21:16 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-07 21:40 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-10-07 21:17 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-07 22:02 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-10-07 21:29 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-08 12:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-08 18:24 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-08 18:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-09 9:50 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2004-10-08 12:16 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-07 22:18 ` Dave Jones
2004-10-07 21:51 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-07 22:41 ` Dave Jones
2004-10-08 0:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-07 23:50 ` viro
2004-10-08 0:40 ` Jesper Juhl
2004-10-08 0:59 ` Jon Masters
[not found] ` <20041008032034.GD3528@galt.devicelogics.com>
2004-10-08 7:15 ` Jon Masters [this message]
2004-10-08 12:38 ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-08 12:50 ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-08 13:48 ` Bruce Ferrell
2004-10-08 15:14 ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-08 2:48 ` Erik Andersen
2004-10-10 6:35 ` Brian Litzinger
2004-10-10 13:25 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-10 22:26 ` Jon Masters
2004-10-11 11:57 ` Tonnerre
2004-10-08 2:40 ` Erik Andersen
2004-10-08 8:50 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2004-10-08 11:08 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-04 20:26 ` Jesse Pollard
2004-10-02 12:35 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2004-10-04 18:03 ` Bill Davidsen
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-09-29 13:44 Ralph Corderoy
2004-10-01 14:52 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-10-01 14:20 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-01 15:59 ` Ralph Corderoy
2004-10-01 16:00 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-01 16:24 ` Jon Masters
2004-10-01 15:59 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-01 17:18 ` Jon Masters
2005-01-07 21:48 ` Jonathan McDowell
2005-01-15 13:43 ` Jonathan McDowell
2005-01-26 16:47 ` Jonathan McDowell
2004-10-01 17:24 ` Tigran Aivazian
2004-10-01 16:14 ` James Courtier-Dutton
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