From: Robert Love <rml@novell.com>
To: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
Cc: stefan.eletzhofer@eletztrick.de,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Linux 2.6 Real Time Kernel
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 16:20:25 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1097353225.9973.7.camel@lucy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1097351221.1428.46.camel@krustophenia.net>
On Sat, 2004-10-09 at 15:47 -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
> Yes. The upper bound on the response time of an RT task is a function
> of the longest non-preemptible code path in the kernel. Currently this
> is the processing of a single packet by netif_receive_skb.
>
> AIUI hard realtime is about bounded response times. How does this not
> qualify?
I am actually in agreement with you, favoring this soft real-time
approach, but this is not bounded response time or determinism. There
are no guarantees, no measurements conducted with all possible inputs,
sizes, errors, and so on. This soft real-time approach gives great
average case--but the worst case is only a measurement on a specific
machine in a specific workload.
Robert Love
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-10-09 20:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-10-09 5:59 [ANNOUNCE] Linux 2.6 Real Time Kernel Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2004-10-09 6:40 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-09 7:33 ` Daniel Walker
2004-10-09 7:42 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-09 23:40 ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-10-09 8:52 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-09 23:20 ` Dave Hansen
2004-10-09 23:24 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-09 10:51 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-10-09 13:15 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-10-09 21:20 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-09 21:35 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-10-09 21:37 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-09 21:45 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-10-09 21:55 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-09 22:21 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-10-09 23:52 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-10 0:05 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-10-10 0:45 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-10 1:05 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-10-10 1:09 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-10 0:43 ` Micha Feigin
2004-10-10 1:08 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-10-09 17:41 ` Karim Yaghmour
2004-10-09 18:30 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-09 21:26 ` stefan.eletzhofer
2004-10-09 19:30 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-09 19:38 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-10-09 21:38 ` stefan.eletzhofer
2004-10-09 19:47 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-09 20:11 ` Karim Yaghmour
2004-10-09 20:14 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-09 20:53 ` Karim Yaghmour
2004-10-09 20:59 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-09 20:20 ` Robert Love [this message]
2004-10-09 20:25 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-10 1:15 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-10 8:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-10 19:41 ` Daniel Walker
2004-10-10 19:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-10 21:20 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-10 21:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-11 17:53 ` Daniel Walker
2004-10-11 20:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-11 21:44 ` Sven Dietrich
2004-10-11 21:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-11 23:05 ` Sven Dietrich
2004-10-12 5:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-14 5:09 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-10-14 7:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-15 14:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-10-15 15:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-15 16:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-10-15 16:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-10-17 17:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-12 18:50 ` Daniel Walker
2004-10-12 19:46 ` [Ext-rt-dev] " Thomas Gleixner
2004-10-12 20:31 ` Sven Dietrich
2004-10-12 20:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-10-13 0:30 ` George Anzinger
2004-10-12 21:12 ` Bill Huey
2004-10-12 21:24 ` Bill Huey
2004-10-12 21:32 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-10-12 23:13 ` Bill Huey
2004-10-12 21:41 ` Sven Dietrich
2004-10-12 22:57 ` Bill Huey
2004-10-12 23:17 ` Adam Heath
2004-10-12 23:36 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-12 23:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-10-13 2:02 ` K.R. Foley
2004-10-13 13:39 ` Martijn Sipkema
2004-10-13 13:26 ` La Monte H.P. Yarroll
2004-10-13 15:04 ` Martijn Sipkema
2004-10-13 14:55 ` Kurt Wall
2004-10-13 14:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-10-13 15:56 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-13 16:13 ` Robert Love
2004-10-13 17:14 ` Martijn Sipkema
2004-10-13 3:55 ` Bill Huey
2004-10-12 22:00 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-10-12 22:36 ` Bill Huey
2004-10-12 23:10 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-10-12 23:33 ` Bill Huey
2004-10-12 23:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-10-12 23:52 ` Bill Huey
2004-10-13 0:59 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-10-10 12:21 ` John Richard Moser
2004-10-10 17:26 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-10 18:45 ` John Richard Moser
2004-10-10 20:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-10 20:44 ` John Richard Moser
2004-10-10 17:29 ` Daniel Walker
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-10-09 11:38 John Hedditch
2004-10-09 22:54 Sven Dietrich
2004-10-11 15:28 Vadim Lebedev
2004-10-11 15:50 ` Eugeny S. Mints
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