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From: Nicholas Miell <nmiell@comcast.net>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] get/set FAT filesystem attribute bits
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 13:46:56 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1104788816.3604.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41D9BA8B.2000108@zytor.com>

On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 13:35 -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Nicholas Miell wrote:
> > Instead of adding another ioctl, wouldn't an xattr be more appropriate?
> > For instance, system.fatattrs containing a text representation of the
> > attribute bits.
> > 
> 
> This really worries me, because it's not clear to me that Microsoft 
> isn't going to add NTFS-style xattrs to FAT in the future.  There is a 
> very specific reason why they might want to do that: since they want to 
> keep NTFS secret and proprietary, FAT is the published interchange 
> format that other devices can use to exchange data with MS operating 
> systems.  If we then have overloaded the xattr mechanism, that would be 
> very ugly.
> 
> 	-hpa

That's why I put fatattrs in the system namespace, which is wholly owned
by the Linux kernel. Any theoretical FAT-with-xattrs variant would put
those xattrs in the user namespace.

On another note, NTFS-style xattrs (aka named streams) are unrelated to
Linux xattrs. A named stream is a separate file with a funny name, while
a Linux xattr is a named extension to struct stat.
-- 
Nicholas Miell <nmiell@comcast.net>


  reply	other threads:[~2005-01-03 21:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-03 20:57 [PATCH] get/set FAT filesystem attribute bits H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-03 21:24 ` Nicholas Miell
2005-01-03 21:35   ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-03 21:46     ` Nicholas Miell [this message]
2005-01-03 22:02       ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-03 22:10         ` Nicholas Miell
2005-01-03 22:25           ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-03 23:16             ` Nicholas Miell
2005-01-03 23:22               ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-03 23:46                 ` Nicholas Miell
2005-01-04 10:09         ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-01-04 21:45           ` Nicholas Miell
2005-01-04  8:34 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2005-01-04  9:41   ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found] <fa.ea9o20r.kje5qn@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.lub44op.a2ec2d@ifi.uio.no>
2005-01-04 11:57   ` Bodo Eggert
2005-01-04 21:26     ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found] <fa.i537e7s.1d6m90c@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.ihdqkec.1i5umji@ifi.uio.no>
2005-01-06  0:07   ` Bodo Eggert
2005-01-06  1:35     ` H. Peter Anvin

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