From: "B.G. Bruce" <bgb@nt-nv.com>
To: "Ronald G. Minnich" <rminnich@lanl.gov>
Cc: Steven Hand <Steven.Hand@cl.cam.ac.uk>,
Jacob Gorm Hansen <jacobg@diku.dk>, Tom Hibbert <tom@nsp.co.nz>,
Tim Freeman <tfreeman@mcs.anl.gov>,
xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: Xen and VMware
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:32:46 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1108657966.26144.241.camel@master.vms.security> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0502170838310.18952@enigma.lanl.gov>
Actually, the biggest appeal of vmware is being able to run windows in a
vm. Most organizations don't really care what is underlying, but it's
the ability to snapshot and restore a virtual machine to a known working
condition (particularly with windows) that appeals. The faster this
restore happens, the better. They want the ability to immediately back
out a hotfix or service pack (or any other software upgrade or config.
change) that is causing issues and know that "ALL" traces of the
offending change have been removed - immediately. No fussing around
with regedit or dll version skew. This is especially true with terminal
servers. If you have your corporate desktop sitting on a terminal
server (say 250-500) users and someone infects the box with a virus or
spyware, the faster you can get the box back to a pristine working
condition, the more of a hero you look. It's the same reason large
corporations look to ghost for their desktop builds.
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 11:51, Ronald G. Minnich wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Steven Hand wrote:
>
> > That said, they may be solving the /wrong/ problem.
>
> I'm not so sure that is correct. I've talked to people in the commercial
> world and learned some interesting things. A big use of vmware and citrix
> is to run windows under windows. Why? Because nobody trusts windows or
> windows users. They run citrix (and I guess vmware in other places) 4 or 5
> instances at a time under NT server and use KVMs. This one person I talked
> to ran thousands of desktops this way.
>
> I'm guessing based on some of my conversations that the big end use of
> vmware is windows under windows. But I could be totally wrong.
>
> ron
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-02-17 16:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-02-16 22:05 Xen and VMware Tom Hibbert
2005-02-16 22:50 ` Jacob Gorm Hansen
2005-02-17 2:40 ` aq
2005-02-17 3:01 ` Jacob Gorm Hansen
2005-02-17 9:14 ` Steven Hand
2005-02-17 9:36 ` Jacob Gorm Hansen
2005-02-17 15:51 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-17 16:32 ` B.G. Bruce [this message]
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2005-02-16 15:08 Tim Freeman
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