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From: Jacob Gorm Hansen <jacobg@diku.dk>
To: Steven Hand <Steven.Hand@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: Xen and VMware
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 01:36:59 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <421465BB.5000400@diku.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1D1hkB-0007Oc-00@mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk>

Steven Hand wrote:

>>VMWare does some amount of paravirtualization, with all the VMWare tools 
>>that you need to install. In fact, Xen seems to be going in VMWare's 
>>direction (shadow page tables, writable page tables, binary rewriting, 
>>Vanderpool support) in some areas.
> 
> Hmm: 
> 
>   - our shadow page tables are quite different to VMware's (as far as 
>     we can tell - there's no docs on their implementation details) 
> 
>   - I don't think that writable page tables are something VMWare do 
>     since it only makes sense for paravirtualized memory systems.
> 
>   - our binary rewriting is a tiny fraction of what they do and, in 
>     current default installs of xen 2.x, is not used at all. 
> 
>   - we released VT support back in 2004; I don't believe VMWare 
>     ship anything supporting VT at present. 

What I meant by that is that where Xen1 was purely in the paravirt camp, 
recent versions take more of a middle-of-the road stance, as Xen now 
sports functionality that does not strictly _have_ to be in the VMM, and 
does so in order to reduce the porting effort for new guest OSes.

Jacob


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  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-17  9:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-16 22:05 Xen and VMware Tom Hibbert
2005-02-16 22:50 ` Jacob Gorm Hansen
2005-02-17  2:40   ` aq
2005-02-17  3:01     ` Jacob Gorm Hansen
2005-02-17  9:14   ` Steven Hand
2005-02-17  9:36     ` Jacob Gorm Hansen [this message]
2005-02-17 15:51     ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-17 16:32       ` B.G. Bruce
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-02-16 15:08 Tim Freeman

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