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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Linux Fbdev development list
	<linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	kas@fi.muni.cz, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com, javier@tudela.mad.ttd.net,
	acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, roland@topspin.com,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Re: [ACPI] inappropriate use of in_atomic()
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:22:54 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1110586974.5752.141.camel@gaston> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050311161335.1e601da1.akpm@osdl.org>

On Fri, 2005-03-11 at 16:13 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> (where'd my cc go?)
> 
> Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 2005-03-11 at 01:46 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > Jan Kasprzak <kas@fi.muni.cz> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This may be the cause of 
> > > > 
> > > >  http://bugme.osdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4150
> > > 
> > > Looks that way, yes.
> > 
> > Note that it would be interesting to fix that (I mean the reliability of
> > is_atomic() or an alternative). I agree it's quite bad to rely on that
> > in practice, but there are a few corner cases where it's useful (like
> > oops handling in fbdev's etc...)
> > 
> 
> That would require that we increment current->something on every
> spin/read/write_lock and decrement it in unlock, even with !CONFIG_PREEMPT.
> 
> iirc, Anton added an option to do that to the ppc64 build, decoupled from
> CONFIG_PREEMPT (which ppc64 doesn't support).

ppc64 _does_ support PREEMPT nowadays :)

> But it's an appreciable amount of overhead.
-- 
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>



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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Linux Fbdev development list 
	<linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	kas@fi.muni.cz, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com, javier@tudela.mad.ttd.net,
	acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, roland@topspin.com,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [ACPI] inappropriate use of in_atomic()
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:22:54 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1110586974.5752.141.camel@gaston> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050311161335.1e601da1.akpm@osdl.org>

On Fri, 2005-03-11 at 16:13 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> (where'd my cc go?)
> 
> Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 2005-03-11 at 01:46 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > Jan Kasprzak <kas@fi.muni.cz> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This may be the cause of 
> > > > 
> > > >  http://bugme.osdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4150
> > > 
> > > Looks that way, yes.
> > 
> > Note that it would be interesting to fix that (I mean the reliability of
> > is_atomic() or an alternative). I agree it's quite bad to rely on that
> > in practice, but there are a few corner cases where it's useful (like
> > oops handling in fbdev's etc...)
> > 
> 
> That would require that we increment current->something on every
> spin/read/write_lock and decrement it in unlock, even with !CONFIG_PREEMPT.
> 
> iirc, Anton added an option to do that to the ppc64 build, decoupled from
> CONFIG_PREEMPT (which ppc64 doesn't support).

ppc64 _does_ support PREEMPT nowadays :)

> But it's an appreciable amount of overhead.
-- 
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>


  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-12  0:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-11  4:40 inappropriate use of in_atomic() Andrew Morton
2005-03-11  4:40 ` Andrew Morton
2005-03-11  4:53 ` Roland Dreier
2005-03-11 12:38   ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-03-11  6:25 ` Stephen Rothwell
2005-03-11  6:25   ` Stephen Rothwell
     [not found] ` <20050310204006.48286d17.akpm-3NddpPZAyC0@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-11  9:11   ` Jan Kasprzak
2005-03-11  9:11     ` [ACPI] " Jan Kasprzak
2005-03-11  9:46     ` Andrew Morton
2005-03-11  9:46       ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]       ` <20050311014601.166ae43d.akpm-3NddpPZAyC0@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-11 12:26         ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-11 12:26           ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [ACPI] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-12  0:13           ` Andrew Morton
2005-03-12  0:13             ` Andrew Morton
2005-03-12  0:22             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2005-03-12  0:22               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-05-31  0:20 ` Adrian Bunk

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