From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Christian Limpach <Christian.Limpach@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
Subject: Re: /proc/xen/xenbus supports watch?
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 10:19:31 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1127089171.23870.56.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050917174003.GQ5722@cl.cam.ac.uk>
On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 18:40 +0100, Christian Limpach wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 06:26:04PM +1000, Rusty Russell wrote:
> > What was the reason for wanting multiple transactions per connection?
> > Changing the interface is going to be a PITA, so we should figure out if
> > we're going to need that soon...
>
> It solves the immediate problem of making the xenbus lock in the kernel
> driver more fine grained. I'm not too happy with how a userspace
> program can block all xenbus access for that domain at the moment,
> even if this is limited to the root user.
Sure, and we already have the concept of separate transports, so I think
we should use them.
> Additionally, I believe
> it's necessary to support reconnect to a different store after
> restore, allowing the store daemon or the xenbus driver to distinguish
> operations which are part of an incomplete transaction from operations
> which are not part of a transaction at all.
And I think you're wrong; it's unnecessary and it doesn't actually help.
The code will show.
> Finally, adding transaction
> ids later will be a lot more difficult.
Unless we introduce a xs_transaction_context() call, and leave it
implicit?
> I also find the current behaviour a bit odd, we support operations
> outside of transactions but once you start a transaction, every
> operation you make is part of that transaction. i think we should
> either require to always be in a transaction or always allow outside
> of transaction operations.
We could drop implicit transactions; it would simplify the code a bit.
I didn't do this because it seems a bit silly for simple monitoring
tools. The start/end transaction model is simple, but if it's
demonstrably insufficient, I agree we should go for transaction ids.
That's orthogonal to the multiplexing of connections over a single
transport tho.
Rusty.
--
A bad analogy is like a leaky screwdriver -- Richard Braakman
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-09-19 0:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-09-08 8:02 /proc/xen/xenbus supports watch? NAHieu
2005-09-08 10:38 ` Christian Limpach
2005-09-09 0:43 ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-13 9:42 ` Christian Limpach
2005-09-14 0:21 ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-14 8:24 ` Christian Limpach
2005-09-14 9:18 ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-14 12:55 ` Christian Limpach
2005-09-15 1:39 ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-15 10:53 ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-17 8:26 ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-17 8:33 ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-19 0:11 ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-19 8:54 ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-20 11:01 ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-21 9:35 ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-22 2:07 ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-22 9:36 ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-22 22:54 ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-23 9:17 ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-25 3:29 ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-25 11:02 ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-25 11:33 ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-25 18:55 ` Christian Limpach
2005-09-26 6:36 ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-26 7:33 ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-26 18:51 ` Christian Limpach
2005-09-26 19:30 ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-27 6:48 ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-27 7:15 ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-27 23:31 ` David Hopwood
2005-09-25 23:06 ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-21 9:39 ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-21 11:42 ` harry
2005-09-22 2:22 ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-22 9:35 ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-22 23:51 ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-23 1:01 ` Andrew Warfield
2005-09-25 0:57 ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-25 11:09 ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-25 22:52 ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-23 9:24 ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-25 1:09 ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-17 17:40 ` Christian Limpach
2005-09-19 0:19 ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2005-09-15 11:02 ` Christian Limpach
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