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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Keir Fraser <Keir.Fraser@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Cc: xen-devel List <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	Steven Hand <steven.hand@cl.cam.ac.uk>,
	Christian Limpach <Christian.Limpach@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: /proc/xen/xenbus supports watch?
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:51:19 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1127433079.2722.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4f7ac507bdbff3eafe3d0aaba1446e41@cl.cam.ac.uk>

On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 10:35 +0100, Keir Fraser wrote:
> Whatever, the client probably needs the code to realise that a bad 
> thing has happened and to take appropriate action whichever strategy we 
> go for. I suspect they are equivalent complexity for clients.

I think you've summed it up well.  Of these two I'm leaning towards
EAGAIN (which the client can turn into a fake success if they want).
But both are subtle and kinda icky.

Which is why I am pondering a bundle/unbundle interface for
transactions, so we can migrate them with the domain.  Summary: 

1) Easy to do at the moment: we already snapshot the entire store for
transactions, so we can just bundle/unbundle that.  We need
globally-unique transactions IDs, but that's fairly simple.
2) Each domain adds roughly 5k to the store (this will increase, say
10k).  This means migrating off a node with 100 domains means adding 1M
to the data we have to send *per transaction*.
3) The store compresses extremely well (~800 bytes per domain), so we
could trivially get it down to 160k/transaction in the 100 domain case.

You know I treasure simple APIs, and this makes the store API simpler
and so reduces subtle errors in future.

But is it worth the complexity?
Rusty.
-- 
A bad analogy is like a leaky screwdriver -- Richard Braakman

  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-22 23:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-08  8:02 /proc/xen/xenbus supports watch? NAHieu
2005-09-08 10:38 ` Christian Limpach
2005-09-09  0:43   ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-13  9:42     ` Christian Limpach
2005-09-14  0:21       ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-14  8:24         ` Christian Limpach
2005-09-14  9:18         ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-14 12:55           ` Christian Limpach
2005-09-15  1:39             ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-15 10:53               ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-17  8:26                 ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-17  8:33                   ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-19  0:11                     ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-19  8:54                       ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-20 11:01                         ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-21  9:35                           ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-22  2:07                             ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-22  9:36                               ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-22 22:54                                 ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-23  9:17                                   ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-25  3:29                                     ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-25 11:02                                       ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-25 11:33                                         ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-25 18:55                                           ` Christian Limpach
2005-09-26  6:36                                             ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-26  7:33                                               ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-26 18:51                                               ` Christian Limpach
2005-09-26 19:30                                                 ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-27  6:48                                                   ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-27  7:15                                                 ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-27 23:31                                                   ` David Hopwood
2005-09-25 23:06                                           ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-21  9:39                           ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-21 11:42                             ` harry
2005-09-22  2:22                             ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-22  9:35                               ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-22 23:51                                 ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2005-09-23  1:01                                   ` Andrew Warfield
2005-09-25  0:57                                     ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-25 11:09                                       ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-25 22:52                                         ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-23  9:24                                   ` Keir Fraser
2005-09-25  1:09                                     ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-17 17:40                   ` Christian Limpach
2005-09-19  0:19                     ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-15 11:02               ` Christian Limpach

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