90% of the spam I receive comes through this list

90% of the spam I receive comes through this list

[Mark Knecht]

It's just an observation but about 90% of the spam I receive every
week seems to come through this list. The only other list I ever
receive any spam from is LKML and it's very much lower than
Alsa-devel.

Is there no filtering on this server or does the filter just let this
much get through?

NOTE: I have not tried to prove that any of the spam was actually sent
by this server. I only filter based on mailing list name and 90% of
the spam ends up in this folder.

- Mark


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Re: 90% of the spam I receive comes through this list

[Lee Revell]

On Fri, 2005-11-04 at 08:48 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
> It's just an observation but about 90% of the spam I receive every
> week seems to come through this list. The only other list I ever
> receive any spam from is LKML and it's very much lower than
> Alsa-devel.
> 
> Is there no filtering on this server or does the filter just let this
> much get through?

There obviously is filtering, it just lets some through.  It's really
not bad, 2 or 3 messages a day.

Lee



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Re: 90% of the spam I receive comes through this list

[Lee Revell]

On Fri, 2005-11-04 at 13:40 -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-11-04 at 08:48 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > It's just an observation but about 90% of the spam I receive every
> > week seems to come through this list. The only other list I ever
> > receive any spam from is LKML and it's very much lower than
> > Alsa-devel.
> > 
> > Is there no filtering on this server or does the filter just let this
> > much get through?
> 
> There obviously is filtering, it just lets some through.  It's really
> not bad, 2 or 3 messages a day.
> 

What I mean is that every list message has headers like this:

X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/)
X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by sourceforge.net. See
http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. Report problems to
http://sf.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=1&atid=200001

The basic issue is that alsa-devel is required to be an open list as
it's listed in the kernel MAINTAINERS file.  But sourceforge does not
have nearly as good spam filtering as vger.kernel.org.

Lee



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Re: 90% of the spam I receive comes through this list

[Mark Knecht]

On 11/4/05, Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-11-04 at 13:40 -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
> > On Fri, 2005-11-04 at 08:48 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > > It's just an observation but about 90% of the spam I receive every
> > > week seems to come through this list. The only other list I ever
> > > receive any spam from is LKML and it's very much lower than
> > > Alsa-devel.
> > >
> > > Is there no filtering on this server or does the filter just let this
> > > much get through?
> >
> > There obviously is filtering, it just lets some through.  It's really
> > not bad, 2 or 3 messages a day.
> >
>
> What I mean is that every list message has headers like this:
>
> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/)
> X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by sourceforge.net. See
> http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. Report problems to
> http://sf.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=1&atid=200001
>
> The basic issue is that alsa-devel is required to be an open list as
> it's listed in the kernel MAINTAINERS file.  But sourceforge does not
> have nearly as good spam filtering as vger.kernel.org.
>
> Lee

Thanks. At least this confirms that others see more or less the same
thing as I do. That's helpful.

I seem to be getting a bit more, like possibly 6-10 a day, maybe 1-2 a
week on LKML, and very little on all the other lists.

GMail seems to be very good at catching spam emailed directly to me
but it puts everythign coming from a list into a folder and makes me
deal with that myself. Not a big problem, but it would be nice if
alsa-devel could do a bit better on this.

Thanks,
Mark


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Re: 90% of the spam I receive comes through this list

[Alien]

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Op vrijdag 4 november 2005 22:49, schreef Mark Knecht:
> On 11/4/05, Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2005-11-04 at 13:40 -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2005-11-04 at 08:48 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > > > It's just an observation but about 90% of the spam I receive every
> > > > week seems to come through this list. The only other list I ever
> > > > receive any spam from is LKML and it's very much lower than
> > > > Alsa-devel.
> > > >
> > > > Is there no filtering on this server or does the filter just let this
> > > > much get through?
> > >
> > > There obviously is filtering, it just lets some through.  It's really
> > > not bad, 2 or 3 messages a day.
> >
> > What I mean is that every list message has headers like this:
> >
> > X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/)
> > X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by sourceforge.net. See
> > http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. Report problems to
> > http://sf.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=1&atid=200001
> >
> > The basic issue is that alsa-devel is required to be an open list as
> > it's listed in the kernel MAINTAINERS file.  But sourceforge does not
> > have nearly as good spam filtering as vger.kernel.org.
> >
> > Lee
>
> Thanks. At least this confirms that others see more or less the same
> thing as I do. That's helpful.
>
> I seem to be getting a bit more, like possibly 6-10 a day, maybe 1-2 a
> week on LKML, and very little on all the other lists.
>
> GMail seems to be very good at catching spam emailed directly to me
> but it puts everythign coming from a list into a folder and makes me
> deal with that myself. Not a big problem, but it would be nice if
> alsa-devel could do a bit better on this.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark

so, the consensus is that _again_ we need to push SF for better spamfiltering 
(no bouncing; i don't think it does that anymore) and maybe learning as well 
(you never know if it works better).

furthermore, there should be a way for one person who actually checks every 
spam that still comes through and report it to spamcop (as spamcop tells us 
that mailing list message cannot be reported (unless by the maintainer).

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