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From: "Bryan O'Sullivan" <bos@serpentine.com>
To: eranian@hpl.hp.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, perfmon@napali.hpl.hp.com,
	perfctr-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: perfmon2 code review: 32-bit ABI on 64-bit OS
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:27:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1139596023.9646.111.camel@serpentine.pathscale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060210153608.GC28311@frankl.hpl.hp.com>

On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 07:36 -0800, Stephane Eranian wrote:

> Many 64-bit Linux kernel do support running 32-bit native applications.
> That is the case on PPC64, MIPS64K, X86-64, for instance.

And sparc64 and s390.

>  One could well
> write a 32-bit monitoring tool on top of a 64-bit OS.

On some 64-bit arches (e.g. x86_64), most userspace code is 64-bit,
while on others (e.g. powerpc), most is 32-bit.  Reducing the number of
things that a userspace tool or library writer can trip over seems like
a good thing here, even if it slightly complicates perfmon's internals.

> Note that there are similar issues with the remapped sampling buffer.
> There, you need to explicitly compile your tool with a special option
> to force certain types to be 64-bit (size_t, void *).

It's pretty normal to just use 64-bit quantities in these cases, and
cast appropriately.

	<b


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From: "Bryan O'Sullivan" <bos@serpentine.com>
To: eranian@hpl.hp.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, perfmon@napali.hpl.hp.com,
	perfctr-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: perfmon2 code review: 32-bit ABI on 64-bit OS
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:27:02 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1139596023.9646.111.camel@serpentine.pathscale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060210153608.GC28311@frankl.hpl.hp.com>

On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 07:36 -0800, Stephane Eranian wrote:

> Many 64-bit Linux kernel do support running 32-bit native applications.
> That is the case on PPC64, MIPS64K, X86-64, for instance.

And sparc64 and s390.

>  One could well
> write a 32-bit monitoring tool on top of a 64-bit OS.

On some 64-bit arches (e.g. x86_64), most userspace code is 64-bit,
while on others (e.g. powerpc), most is 32-bit.  Reducing the number of
things that a userspace tool or library writer can trip over seems like
a good thing here, even if it slightly complicates perfmon's internals.

> Note that there are similar issues with the remapped sampling buffer.
> There, you need to explicitly compile your tool with a special option
> to force certain types to be 64-bit (size_t, void *).

It's pretty normal to just use 64-bit quantities in these cases, and
cast appropriately.

	<b


  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-10 18:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-20 18:37 [perfmon] Re: quick overview of the perfmon2 interface Truong, Dan
2006-01-20 18:37 ` Truong, Dan
2006-01-20 22:22 ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-20 22:22   ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-25 20:33 ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-01-25 20:33   ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-01-25 22:28   ` [Perfctr-devel] " Stephane Eranian
2006-01-25 22:28     ` Stephane Eranian
2006-01-25 22:46     ` [Perfctr-devel] RE: [perfmon] Re: quick overview of the Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-01-25 22:46       ` [Perfctr-devel] RE: [perfmon] Re: quick overview of the perfmon2 interface Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-01-26  7:48       ` Stephane Eranian
2006-01-26  7:48         ` Stephane Eranian
2006-01-26 18:26         ` [Perfctr-devel] RE: [perfmon] Re: quick overview of the Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-01-26 18:26           ` [Perfctr-devel] RE: [perfmon] Re: quick overview of the perfmon2 interface Bryan O'Sullivan
     [not found]     ` <1138649612.4077.50.camel@localhost.localdomain>
     [not found]       ` <1138651545.4487.13.camel@camp4.serpentine.com>
     [not found]         ` <1139155731.4279.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
     [not found]           ` <1139245253.27739.8.camel@camp4.serpentine.com>
2006-02-10 15:36             ` perfmon2 code review: 32-bit ABI on 64-bit OS Stephane Eranian
2006-02-10 15:36               ` Stephane Eranian
2006-02-10 18:27               ` Bryan O'Sullivan [this message]
2006-02-10 18:27                 ` Bryan O'Sullivan
     [not found]                 ` <1139681785.4316.33.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2006-02-11 22:33                   ` [perfmon] " Stephane Eranian
2006-02-12 23:46                     ` [Perfctr-devel] " David Gibson
2006-02-13  0:03                       ` Eric Gouriou
2006-02-13 20:31                         ` Stephane Eranian
     [not found]                     ` <1139857076.4342.10.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2006-02-14 23:41                       ` [Perfctr-devel] " Stephane Eranian
2006-02-20 17:54                       ` Stephane Eranian
2006-02-13 20:34                 ` Stephane Eranian
2006-02-13 20:34                   ` Stephane Eranian

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