From: "Timothy R. Chavez" <tinytim@us.ibm.com>
To: Steve Grubb <sgrubb@redhat.com>
Cc: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
linux-audit@redhat.com, James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
selinux@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] collect security labels on user processes generating audit messages
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:58:13 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1140022693.11804.41.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200602151141.42778.sgrubb@redhat.com>
On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 11:41 -0500, Steve Grubb wrote:
> On Wednesday 15 February 2006 11:37, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> > > It creates parsing problems without a value. If I saw "tty=" and that's
> > > all, I'd think the audit system malfunctioned and file a bugzilla. I
> > > don't want that.
> >
> > OTOH, if I see (null), I tend to assume a bug in the code. Isn't it
> > saner to just omit the name=value pair altogether if the value is NULL?
>
> No, cause then I have non-normalized records.
>
> > Otherwise, you are adding extra processing on the generation and parsing
> > side for no benefit, along with wasting space in the audit message.
>
> There is a benefit...no missing fields means that the record is normalized.
> This is a required step before we create a binary format record.
>
> There are performance benefits in the kernel as well as user space. The kernel
> doesn't have to have an "if" statement with 2 nearly identical calls to
> audit_log_format or 2 back to back calls to the same function adding a new
> piece of info.
>
> In userspace, I can parse it faster since I don't have to backtrack and
> re-parse from the last good token to look for the next field after deciding
> one is missing.
>
> -Steve
Steve,
I agree with you. Also, we could have 'ausearch' interpret a (null)
differently depending on token. So perhaps an ausearch on a record
where subj=(null), would return subj=disabled.
-tim
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-02-15 16:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-09 1:32 [RFC][PATCH] collect security labels on user processes generating audit messages Timothy R. Chavez
2006-02-09 14:58 ` James Morris
2006-02-09 15:10 ` Darrel Goeddel
2006-02-09 15:15 ` James Morris
2006-02-09 17:43 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-02-09 16:13 ` Timothy R. Chavez
2006-02-09 17:03 ` James Morris
2006-02-09 17:39 ` Timothy R. Chavez
2006-02-09 17:29 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-02-09 18:13 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-02-10 0:14 ` Timothy R. Chavez
2006-02-10 4:00 ` James Morris
2006-02-13 19:12 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-02-14 23:48 ` Timothy R. Chavez
2006-02-15 13:47 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-02-15 15:49 ` Timothy R. Chavez
2006-02-15 16:14 ` Linda Knippers
2006-02-15 16:22 ` Steve Grubb
2006-02-15 16:37 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-02-15 16:41 ` Steve Grubb
2006-02-15 16:58 ` Timothy R. Chavez [this message]
2006-02-15 18:33 ` Timothy R. Chavez
2006-02-15 17:17 ` Linda Knippers
2006-02-15 18:14 ` Steve Grubb
2006-02-15 18:20 ` Steve Grubb
2006-02-16 14:56 ` Steve Grubb
2006-02-16 15:29 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-02-16 15:35 ` Steve Grubb
2006-02-16 16:27 ` Timothy R. Chavez
2006-02-16 19:03 ` Lamont R. Peterson
2006-02-16 20:44 ` Timothy R. Chavez
2006-02-15 16:17 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-02-15 16:41 ` Timothy R. Chavez
2006-02-15 16:38 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-02-15 21:05 ` Darrel Goeddel
2006-02-17 20:58 ` Timothy R. Chavez
2006-02-22 14:21 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-02-22 17:14 ` Timothy R. Chavez
2006-02-22 14:26 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-02-22 17:13 ` Timothy R. Chavez
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