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From: Peter Zijlstra <peter@programming.kicks-ass.net>
To: Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Magnus Damm <magnus@valinux.co.jp>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/03] Unmapped: Separate unmapped and mapped pages
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 21:58:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1142110694.2928.6.camel@lappy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aec7e5c30603100519l5a68aec3ub838ac69a734a46b@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 14:19 +0100, Magnus Damm wrote:
> On 3/10/06, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org> wrote:
> > > Apply on top of 2.6.16-rc5.
> > >
> > > Comments?
> >
> >
> > my big worry with a split LRU is: how do you keep fairness and balance
> > between those LRUs? This is one of the things that made the 2.4 VM suck
> > really badly, so I really wouldn't want this bad...
> 
> Yeah, I agree this is important. I think linux-2.4 tried to keep the
> LRU list lengths in a certain way (maybe 2/3 of all pages active, 1/3
> inactive). In 2.6 there is no such thing, instead the number of pages
> scanned is related to the current scanning priority.

This sounds wrong, the active and inactive lists are balanced to a 1:1
ratio. This is happens because the scan speed is directly proportional
to the size of the list. Hence the largest list will shrink fastest -
this gives a natural balance to equal sizes.

Peter



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From: Peter Zijlstra <peter@programming.kicks-ass.net>
To: Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Magnus Damm <magnus@valinux.co.jp>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/03] Unmapped: Separate unmapped and mapped pages
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 21:58:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1142110694.2928.6.camel@lappy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aec7e5c30603100519l5a68aec3ub838ac69a734a46b@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 14:19 +0100, Magnus Damm wrote:
> On 3/10/06, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org> wrote:
> > > Apply on top of 2.6.16-rc5.
> > >
> > > Comments?
> >
> >
> > my big worry with a split LRU is: how do you keep fairness and balance
> > between those LRUs? This is one of the things that made the 2.4 VM suck
> > really badly, so I really wouldn't want this bad...
> 
> Yeah, I agree this is important. I think linux-2.4 tried to keep the
> LRU list lengths in a certain way (maybe 2/3 of all pages active, 1/3
> inactive). In 2.6 there is no such thing, instead the number of pages
> scanned is related to the current scanning priority.

This sounds wrong, the active and inactive lists are balanced to a 1:1
ratio. This is happens because the scan speed is directly proportional
to the size of the list. Hence the largest list will shrink fastest -
this gives a natural balance to equal sizes.

Peter


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-03-11 20:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-10  3:44 [PATCH 00/03] Unmapped: Separate unmapped and mapped pages Magnus Damm
2006-03-10  3:44 ` Magnus Damm
2006-03-10  3:44 ` [PATCH 01/03] Unmapped: Implement two LRU:s Magnus Damm
2006-03-10  3:44   ` Magnus Damm
2006-03-10 19:16   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-10 19:16     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-11 12:14     ` Magnus Damm
2006-03-11 12:14       ` Magnus Damm
2006-03-10  3:44 ` [PATCH 02/03] Unmapped: Modify LRU behaviour Magnus Damm
2006-03-10  3:44   ` Magnus Damm
2006-03-10  3:44 ` [PATCH 03/03] Unmapped: Add guarantee code Magnus Damm
2006-03-10  3:44   ` Magnus Damm
2006-03-10  4:57   ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-10  4:57     ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-10  6:04     ` Magnus Damm
2006-03-10  6:04       ` Magnus Damm
2006-03-10 15:41       ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-03-10 15:41         ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-03-11 12:29         ` Magnus Damm
2006-03-11 12:29           ` Magnus Damm
2006-03-15 15:32           ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-03-15 15:32             ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-03-10  4:55 ` [PATCH 00/03] Unmapped: Separate unmapped and mapped pages Nick Piggin
2006-03-10  4:55   ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-10  5:55   ` Magnus Damm
2006-03-10  5:55     ` Magnus Damm
2006-03-10  7:52 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-10  7:52   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-10 13:19   ` Magnus Damm
2006-03-10 13:19     ` Magnus Damm
2006-03-10 14:05     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-10 14:05       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-11 11:52       ` Magnus Damm
2006-03-11 11:52         ` Magnus Damm
2006-03-11 20:58     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2006-03-11 20:58       ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-03-13  2:28       ` Magnus Damm
2006-03-13  2:28         ` Magnus Damm
2006-03-10 12:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-03-10 12:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-03-10 13:38   ` Magnus Damm
2006-03-10 13:38     ` Magnus Damm
2006-03-11 21:08     ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-03-11 21:08       ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-03-13  3:05       ` Magnus Damm
2006-03-13  3:05         ` Magnus Damm
2006-03-10 19:12 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-10 19:12   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-11 11:56   ` Magnus Damm
2006-03-11 11:56     ` Magnus Damm

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