From: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [uml-devel] Re: [RFC] PATCH 0/4 - Time virtualization
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 09:24:20 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1145031860.10781.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060414015316.GA7723@ccure.user-mode-linux.org>
On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 21:53 -0400, Jeff Dike wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 05:31:27PM -0700, john stultz wrote:
> > Looks interesting. I've never quite understood the need for different
> > time domains, it only allows you to run one domain with the incorrect
> > time, but I'm sure there is some use case that is desired.
>
> There are a few possible answers -
>
> If when this virtualization stuff is done, no one has done anything with
> time, someone is going to moan.
Apparently its like painting a wall then, no?
"You missed those spots over there!" :)
> Once in a while, you want to fiddle your system clock to make sure that
> a cron job or something does what it's supposed to.
>
> There was some extra infrastructure that UML needed in order to start using
> this stuff, so I chose a fairly simple virtualization case to accompany it.
>
> > I'm not psyched about possible namespace vs nanosecond confusion w/
> > terms like "time_ns", but that's pretty minor.
>
> Yeah, names can be changed.
Well, as long as its pretty isolated its not such a big deal. Just
figured I'd bring it up as a consideration.
> > Also I hope you're not wanting to deal w/ NTP adjustments between
> > domains that have the incorrect time? That would be very ugly.
>
> No, the domain stores an offset from the system time, so it automatically
> gets the system's NTP adjustments.
Ok, as long as you don't intend to go down that path, these patches
looks pretty harmless.
thanks
-john
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From: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [uml-devel] Re: [RFC] PATCH 0/4 - Time virtualization
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 09:24:20 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1145031860.10781.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060414015316.GA7723@ccure.user-mode-linux.org>
On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 21:53 -0400, Jeff Dike wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 05:31:27PM -0700, john stultz wrote:
> > Looks interesting. I've never quite understood the need for different
> > time domains, it only allows you to run one domain with the incorrect
> > time, but I'm sure there is some use case that is desired.
>
> There are a few possible answers -
>
> If when this virtualization stuff is done, no one has done anything with
> time, someone is going to moan.
Apparently its like painting a wall then, no?
"You missed those spots over there!" :)
> Once in a while, you want to fiddle your system clock to make sure that
> a cron job or something does what it's supposed to.
>
> There was some extra infrastructure that UML needed in order to start using
> this stuff, so I chose a fairly simple virtualization case to accompany it.
>
> > I'm not psyched about possible namespace vs nanosecond confusion w/
> > terms like "time_ns", but that's pretty minor.
>
> Yeah, names can be changed.
Well, as long as its pretty isolated its not such a big deal. Just
figured I'd bring it up as a consideration.
> > Also I hope you're not wanting to deal w/ NTP adjustments between
> > domains that have the incorrect time? That would be very ugly.
>
> No, the domain stores an offset from the system time, so it automatically
> gets the system's NTP adjustments.
Ok, as long as you don't intend to go down that path, these patches
looks pretty harmless.
thanks
-john
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-04-14 16:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-04-13 17:19 [uml-devel] [RFC] PATCH 0/4 - Time virtualization Jeff Dike
2006-04-13 17:19 ` Jeff Dike
2006-04-14 0:31 ` [uml-devel] " john stultz
2006-04-14 0:31 ` john stultz
2006-04-14 1:53 ` [uml-devel] " Jeff Dike
2006-04-14 1:53 ` Jeff Dike
2006-04-14 16:24 ` john stultz [this message]
2006-04-14 16:24 ` john stultz
2006-04-19 8:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-04-19 8:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-04-26 18:01 ` [uml-devel] " Jeff Dike
2006-04-26 18:01 ` Jeff Dike
2006-04-28 11:33 ` [uml-devel] " Blaisorblade
2006-04-28 11:33 ` Blaisorblade
2006-04-28 11:48 ` Jeff Dike
2006-04-28 11:48 ` Jeff Dike
2006-04-28 12:14 ` Jeff Dike
2006-04-28 12:14 ` Jeff Dike
2006-04-28 13:54 ` Blaisorblade
2006-04-28 13:54 ` Blaisorblade
2006-04-28 15:15 ` Jeff Dike
2006-04-28 15:15 ` Jeff Dike
2006-04-28 20:10 ` Blaisorblade
2006-04-28 20:10 ` Blaisorblade
2006-04-28 16:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-04-28 16:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
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2006-04-14 15:39 Brock, Anthony - NET
2006-04-14 15:33 ` Jeff Dike
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