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From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: ALSA development <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>,
	linuxppc-dev list <linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Benjamin Berg <benjamin@sipsolutions.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC] alsa integer control ranges
Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 10:53:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1147791186.13948.109.camel@mindpipe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1147780945.29795.110.camel@johannes>

On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 14:02 +0200, Johannes Berg wrote:
> Apparently all alsa userspace programs including alsamixer suck. Hence,
> this patch is required to make them work properly. Why is it so hard to
> do these additions/subtractions in the program or maybe even in the alsa
> library? The alsa libraries already think they know better and mess up
> all kinds of things.
> 
> What are your opinions on this? Should this be required? And if so, why
> do we even have the value.integer.min when we can't use it anyway? 
> 
> The code this patch applies against is in
> http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/snd-aoa.git/ but that isn't all too
> relevant, the patch serves just as an illustration of what is wrong
> here.
> 

Ummm... what problem is this patch fixing?

Lee



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From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: linuxppc-dev list <linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org>,
	ALSA development <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>
Subject: Re: [Alsa-devel] [RFC] alsa integer control ranges
Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 10:53:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1147791186.13948.109.camel@mindpipe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1147780945.29795.110.camel@johannes>

On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 14:02 +0200, Johannes Berg wrote:
> Apparently all alsa userspace programs including alsamixer suck. Hence,
> this patch is required to make them work properly. Why is it so hard to
> do these additions/subtractions in the program or maybe even in the alsa
> library? The alsa libraries already think they know better and mess up
> all kinds of things.
> 
> What are your opinions on this? Should this be required? And if so, why
> do we even have the value.integer.min when we can't use it anyway? 
> 
> The code this patch applies against is in
> http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/snd-aoa.git/ but that isn't all too
> relevant, the patch serves just as an illustration of what is wrong
> here.
> 

Ummm... what problem is this patch fixing?

Lee

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-05-16 14:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-16 12:02 [RFC] alsa integer control ranges Johannes Berg
2006-05-16 12:27 ` [Alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2006-05-16 22:03   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-05-16 22:03     ` [Alsa-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-05-17  9:59     ` Takashi Iwai
2006-05-17  9:59       ` [Alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2006-05-17 12:16       ` Johannes Berg
2006-05-17 12:35         ` Takashi Iwai
2006-05-17 12:39           ` Johannes Berg
2006-05-17 12:39             ` [Alsa-devel] " Johannes Berg
2006-05-17 21:41           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-05-17 21:41           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-05-17 12:35         ` Takashi Iwai
2006-05-17 12:16       ` Johannes Berg
2006-05-17 12:17   ` Johannes Berg
2006-05-17 12:17   ` [Alsa-devel] " Johannes Berg
2006-05-17 12:37     ` Takashi Iwai
2006-05-17 12:37     ` [Alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2006-05-16 12:27 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-05-16 12:31 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-05-16 12:31   ` [Alsa-devel] " Jaroslav Kysela
2006-05-16 22:04   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-05-17  6:41     ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-05-17  6:41       ` [Alsa-devel] " Jaroslav Kysela
2006-05-17 12:21       ` Johannes Berg
2006-05-17 12:21       ` Johannes Berg
2006-05-17  9:47     ` Takashi Iwai
2006-05-17  9:47     ` [Alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2006-05-17 12:24       ` Johannes Berg
2006-05-17 12:24       ` [Alsa-devel] " Johannes Berg
2006-05-16 22:04   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-05-16 14:53 ` Lee Revell [this message]
2006-05-16 14:53   ` [Alsa-devel] " Lee Revell
2006-05-16 14:55   ` Johannes Berg
2006-05-16 14:55   ` [Alsa-devel] " Johannes Berg
2006-05-17 15:38     ` Wolfgang Pfeiffer
2006-05-17 15:38     ` [Alsa-devel] " Wolfgang Pfeiffer
2006-05-16 22:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-05-16 22:04   ` Lee Revell
2006-05-16 22:04   ` [Alsa-devel] " Lee Revell
2006-05-16 22:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-05-16 12:02 Johannes Berg

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