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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: David Wagner <daw-usenet@taverner.cs.berkeley.edu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH] revoke/frevoke system calls V2
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:13:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1155039200.5729.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <eb8g8b$837$1@taverner.cs.berkeley.edu>

Ar Llu, 2006-08-07 am 22:52 +0000, ysgrifennodd David Wagner:
> I'm still trying to understand the semantics of this proposed
> frevoke() implementation.  Can an attacker use this to forcibly
> close some other processes' file descriptor?  Suppose the target

No.

> process has fd 0 open and the attacker revokes the file corresponding
> to fd 0; what is the state of fd 0 in the target process?  Is it
> closed?  If the target process then open()s another file, does it

No its revoked. Just like a tty hangup

> get bound to fd 0?  (Recall that open() always binds to the lowest
> unused fd.)  If the answers are "yes", then the security consequences
> seem very scary.

Of course it doesn't. The BSD folk who added revoke were security people
not idiots.

Alan


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-08-08 11:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-27 14:25 [RFC/PATCH] revoke/frevoke system calls V2 Pekka J Enberg
2006-07-27 15:07 ` Alan Cox
2006-07-27 15:33   ` Pekka Enberg
2006-07-27 16:09     ` Alan Cox
2006-07-27 16:01       ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-07-27 16:30         ` Alan Cox
2006-07-27 17:07           ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-07-27 18:27           ` Pekka Enberg
2006-07-27 16:41 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-27 17:05   ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-07-27 17:13     ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-27 17:33       ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-27 17:44         ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-27 18:00           ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-27 17:33     ` Alan Cox
2006-07-27 17:33       ` O_CAREFUL flag to disable open() side effects H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-27 17:43         ` Russell King
2006-07-27 17:50         ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-27 18:05         ` Alan Cox
2006-07-27 18:03           ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-27 18:14             ` Joshua Hudson
2006-08-05 21:05       ` [RFC/PATCH] revoke/frevoke system calls V2 Pavel Machek
2006-07-27 18:06 ` Petr Baudis
2006-07-27 18:10   ` Pekka Enberg
2006-07-27 19:30     ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-28  3:40       ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-07-27 18:34   ` Alan Cox
2006-08-05 12:29 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-07  5:42   ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-08-07  8:17   ` Edgar Toernig
2006-08-07  9:51     ` Pekka Enberg
2006-08-07 20:41       ` Edgar Toernig
2006-08-07 22:24         ` Chase Venters
2006-08-08 12:15           ` Alan Cox
2006-08-09  8:41             ` Edgar Toernig
2006-08-09 10:39               ` Alan Cox
2006-08-09 18:00                 ` Edgar Toernig
2006-08-09 18:36                   ` Alan Cox
2006-08-09 19:13                     ` Pekka Enberg
2006-08-09 20:08                       ` Edgar Toernig
2006-08-09 21:29                       ` Edgar Toernig
2006-08-11  7:52                   ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-07 22:52         ` David Wagner
2006-08-07 22:56           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-08-07 23:12             ` Chase Venters
2006-08-08 12:16               ` Pekka Enberg
2006-08-08 16:02                 ` Kari Hurtta
2006-08-08 21:54                   ` Theodore Tso
2006-08-09  6:32                     ` Pekka Enberg
2006-08-08 12:13           ` Alan Cox [this message]
2006-08-08 12:29         ` Alan Cox
2006-08-08 12:31           ` Pekka Enberg
2006-08-08 12:57           ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-08 14:14             ` Alan Cox
2006-08-08 13:57               ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-09  8:41           ` Edgar Toernig
2006-08-09 10:42             ` Alan Cox
2006-08-09 18:00               ` Edgar Toernig
2006-08-09 18:35                 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-09 19:14                   ` Pekka Enberg

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