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From: "Christopher J. PeBenito" <cpebenito@tresys.com>
To: vyekkirala@TrustedCS.com
Cc: "'Karl MacMillan'" <kmacmillan@mentalrootkit.com>,
	"'Joshua Brindle'" <jbrindle@tresys.com>,
	selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, sds@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: RE: Denials from newest kernel
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:53:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1161006794.5980.196.camel@sgc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <000001c6f129$4cdbe370$cc0a010a@tcssec.com>

On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 08:45 -0500, Venkat Yekkirala wrote:
> > > > > > 5. can the packet flow into the ipsec association?
> > 
> > > > Without 5, we can't restrict the association traffic to just
> > > > http_client_packet_t, so mozilla_t can't be denied 
> > sending/receiving
> > > > dns_client_packets_t over the httpd_t association.
> > > 
> > > You can restrict it, but by way of the policy in the SPD, where you
> > > can use selectors such as ipaddr, port, protocol, etc. (see 
> > setkey(8)).
> > > 
> > > The "security points" have nothing to do with ipsec associations.
> > 
> > This is not sufficient because it encodes the access control 
> > policy into
> > the SPD,
> 
> No it doesn't. You are ONLY labeling the rules in the SPD. Enforcement
> is still via SELinux policy where you would have rules like:
> 
> allow apache_t  httpd_ipsec_t:association { polmatch };
> 
> > instead of putting the policy in the SELinux policy.  Putting
> > it in the SPD can't be analyzed when you do a policy analysis.
> 
> Agreed and that's not what's happening. IOW, you are only labeling
> the rules in the SPD leveraging the SPD syntax, but enforcement is
> still via SELinux policy.

No, that is what is happening.  You can't tell from looking at the
SELinux policy that only http_server_packet_t can go on the
httpd_ipsec_t association, you would have to look at the SPD.  That's
the problem.

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Chris PeBenito
Tresys Technology, LLC
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  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-16 13:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-10 14:42 Denials from newest kernel Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-10 18:33 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-10-10 19:15   ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-10 19:35     ` Karl MacMillan
2006-10-10 19:56       ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-12 18:51         ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-10-12 20:06           ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-13 15:06             ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-10-13 21:52               ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-16 12:31                 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-10-16 13:45                   ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-16 13:53                     ` Christopher J. PeBenito [this message]
2006-10-16 14:16                       ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-16 17:26                         ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-10-16 18:29                           ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-16 18:53                             ` Paul Moore
2006-10-17 13:56                             ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-10-17 17:58                               ` Darrel Goeddel
2006-10-17 18:22                                 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-10-17 19:23                                   ` Darrel Goeddel
2006-10-18 13:45                                     ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-10-19 15:57                                       ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-20 12:41                                         ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-10-23 17:42                                           ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-24  0:44                                             ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-10-13 22:42             ` Paul Moore
2006-10-14  1:00               ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-14 12:13                 ` Paul Moore
2006-10-14 19:50                   ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-14 20:41                     ` Paul Moore
2006-10-14 20:58                     ` James Morris
2006-10-14 23:01                       ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-16 13:16                         ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-10-16 14:11                           ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-14  7:36               ` James Morris
2006-10-14 12:18                 ` Paul Moore
2006-10-14 20:10                 ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-10 20:05     ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-10-11 14:04       ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-12  7:19         ` James Morris
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-10-10 16:28 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-10 15:45 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-10 14:18 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-10 14:42 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-10-09 23:40 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-10  0:10 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-10-10 14:07 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-10-10 15:55   ` Joshua Brindle
2006-10-06 21:34 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-06 21:17 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-09 14:03 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-10-06 21:15 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-06 21:31 ` Paul Moore
2006-10-06 20:05 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-06 19:43 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-06 15:11 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-06 15:17 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-10-06 16:25   ` Stephen Smalley
2006-10-06 15:21 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-10-06 15:44   ` Joshua Brindle
2006-10-06 15:56     ` Stephen Smalley
2006-10-06 16:59       ` Karl MacMillan
2006-10-06 18:31   ` Joshua Brindle
2006-10-06 19:04     ` Joshua Brindle
2006-10-06 14:23 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-06 14:50 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-10-06 13:45 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-06 13:55 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-10-06 14:39 ` Paul Moore
2006-10-06 13:31 Joshua Brindle
2006-10-06 17:32 ` James Morris
2006-10-06 18:41   ` Steve G
2006-10-06 19:50     ` James Morris
2006-10-06 19:56       ` Joshua Brindle
2006-10-06 20:13         ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-10-06 19:02 ` Paul Moore

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