From: Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Martin Bligh <mbligh@mbligh.org>,
Christian Krafft <krafft@de.ibm.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 2/2] enables booting a NUMA system where some nodes have no memory
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:21:49 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1163690509.5761.4.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0611151440400.23201@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 14:41 -0800, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Nov 2006, Martin Bligh wrote:
>
> > A node is an arbitrary container object containing one or more of:
> >
> > CPUs
> > Memory
> > IO bus
> >
> > It does not have to contain memory.
>
> I have never seen a node on Linux without memory. I have seen nodes
> without processors and without I/O but not without memory.This seems to be
> something new?
I sent this out earlier in response to another message from Christoph
regarding nodes w/o memory. Don't know if it made it...
>On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 10:16 -0800, Christoph Lameter wrote:
>> On Wed, 8 Nov 2006, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
>>
>> > I wonder there are no code for creating NODE_DATA() for
device-only-node.
>>
>> On IA64 we remap nodes with no memory / cpus to the nearest node
with
>> memory. I think that is sufficient.
I don't think this happens anymore. Back in the ~2.6.5 days, when we
would configure our numa platforms with 100% of memory interleaved [in
hardware at cache line granularity], the cpus would move to the
interleaved "pseudo-node" and the memoryless nodes would be removed.
numactl --hardware would show something like this:
# uname -r
2.6.5-7.244-default
# numactl --hardware
available: 1 nodes (0-0)
node 0 size: 65443 MB
node 0 free: 64506 MB
I started seeing different behavior about the time SPARSEMEM went in.
Now, with a 2.6.16 base kernel [same platform, hardware interleaved
memory], I see:
# uname -r# numactl --hardware
available: 5 nodes (0-4)
node 0 size: 0 MB
node 0 free: 0 MB
node 1 size: 0 MB
node 1 free: 0 MB
node 2 size: 0 MB
node 2 free: 0 MB
node 3 size: 0 MB
node 3 free: 0 MB
node 4 size: 65439 MB
node 4 free: 64492 MB
node distances:
node 0 1 2 3 4
0: 10 17 17 17 14
1: 17 10 17 17 14
2: 17 17 10 17 14
3: 17 17 17 10 14
4: 14 14 14 14 10
2.6.16.21-0.8-default
[Aside: The firmware/SLIT says that the interleaved memory is closer to
all nodes that other nodes' memory. This has interesting implications
for the "overflow" zone lists...]
Lee
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From: Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Martin Bligh <mbligh@mbligh.org>,
Christian Krafft <krafft@de.ibm.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 2/2] enables booting a NUMA system where some nodes have no memory
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:21:49 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1163690509.5761.4.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0611151440400.23201@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 14:41 -0800, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Nov 2006, Martin Bligh wrote:
>
> > A node is an arbitrary container object containing one or more of:
> >
> > CPUs
> > Memory
> > IO bus
> >
> > It does not have to contain memory.
>
> I have never seen a node on Linux without memory. I have seen nodes
> without processors and without I/O but not without memory.This seems to be
> something new?
I sent this out earlier in response to another message from Christoph
regarding nodes w/o memory. Don't know if it made it...
>On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 10:16 -0800, Christoph Lameter wrote:
>> On Wed, 8 Nov 2006, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
>>
>> > I wonder there are no code for creating NODE_DATA() for
device-only-node.
>>
>> On IA64 we remap nodes with no memory / cpus to the nearest node
with
>> memory. I think that is sufficient.
I don't think this happens anymore. Back in the ~2.6.5 days, when we
would configure our numa platforms with 100% of memory interleaved [in
hardware at cache line granularity], the cpus would move to the
interleaved "pseudo-node" and the memoryless nodes would be removed.
numactl --hardware would show something like this:
# uname -r
2.6.5-7.244-default
# numactl --hardware
available: 1 nodes (0-0)
node 0 size: 65443 MB
node 0 free: 64506 MB
I started seeing different behavior about the time SPARSEMEM went in.
Now, with a 2.6.16 base kernel [same platform, hardware interleaved
memory], I see:
# uname -r# numactl --hardware
available: 5 nodes (0-4)
node 0 size: 0 MB
node 0 free: 0 MB
node 1 size: 0 MB
node 1 free: 0 MB
node 2 size: 0 MB
node 2 free: 0 MB
node 3 size: 0 MB
node 3 free: 0 MB
node 4 size: 65439 MB
node 4 free: 64492 MB
node distances:
node 0 1 2 3 4
0: 10 17 17 17 14
1: 17 10 17 17 14
2: 17 17 10 17 14
3: 17 17 17 10 14
4: 14 14 14 14 10
2.6.16.21-0.8-default
[Aside: The firmware/SLIT says that the interleaved memory is closer to
all nodes that other nodes' memory. This has interesting implications
for the "overflow" zone lists...]
Lee
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-11-16 15:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-11-15 18:30 [patch 0/2] fix bugs while booting on NUMA system where some nodes have no mem Christian Krafft
2006-11-15 18:30 ` Christian Krafft
2006-11-15 18:32 ` [patch 1/2] fix call to alloc_bootmem after bootmem has been freed Christian Krafft
2006-11-15 18:32 ` Christian Krafft
2006-11-21 16:55 ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-21 16:55 ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-21 18:02 ` Christian Krafft
2006-11-21 18:26 ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-21 18:26 ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-22 9:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-11-22 9:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-11-15 18:34 ` [patch 2/2] enables booting a NUMA system where some nodes have no memory Christian Krafft
2006-11-15 18:34 ` Christian Krafft
2006-11-15 21:24 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-15 21:24 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-15 21:58 ` Jack Steiner
2006-11-15 21:58 ` Jack Steiner
2006-11-15 22:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-15 22:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-15 22:43 ` Martin Bligh
2006-11-15 22:43 ` Martin Bligh
2006-11-15 22:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-15 22:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-16 0:54 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-11-16 0:54 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-11-16 0:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-16 0:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-16 1:17 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-11-16 1:17 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-11-16 15:40 ` Christian Krafft
2006-11-16 15:49 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-11-16 15:49 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-11-16 18:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-16 18:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-16 2:01 ` Martin Bligh
2006-11-16 2:01 ` Martin Bligh
2006-11-16 1:35 ` Jack Steiner
2006-11-16 1:35 ` Jack Steiner
2006-11-16 1:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-16 1:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-16 2:09 ` Martin Bligh
2006-11-16 2:09 ` Martin Bligh
2006-11-16 2:35 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-16 2:35 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-16 3:28 ` Jack Steiner
2006-11-16 3:28 ` Jack Steiner
2006-11-15 22:05 ` Martin Bligh
2006-11-15 22:05 ` Martin Bligh
2006-11-15 22:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-15 22:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-15 22:46 ` Martin Bligh
2006-11-15 22:46 ` Martin Bligh
2006-11-15 22:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-15 22:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-16 0:59 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-11-16 0:59 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-11-16 1:22 ` Yasunori Goto
2006-11-16 1:22 ` Yasunori Goto
2006-11-16 0:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-11-16 0:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-11-16 0:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-16 0:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-16 13:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-11-16 13:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-11-16 0:44 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-11-16 0:44 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-11-16 0:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-16 0:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-16 15:21 ` Lee Schermerhorn [this message]
2006-11-16 15:21 ` Lee Schermerhorn
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