Alsa 1.0.14?

Alsa 1.0.14?

[Tobin Davis]

With as much that has changed since alsa-1.0.13, can we expect to start
rolling out 1.0.14 soon?  The more users testing the changes, the
cleaner it gets.

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Tobin Davis <tdavis@dsl-only.net>


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Re: Alsa 1.0.14?

[Takashi Iwai]

At Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:04:47 -0800,
Tobin Davis wrote:
> 
> With as much that has changed since alsa-1.0.13, can we expect to start
> rolling out 1.0.14 soon?  The more users testing the changes, the
> cleaner it gets.

Yes, I'm for release 1.0.14, at least, for drivers.

The question is still about device enumeration API in alsa-lib.
We have no real implementations in the application side, except for
aplay.  IMO, we'll need to create patches to major apps / system by
ourselves to push this API, instead of just waiting for their
implementations.  Otherwise no one will use such a new stuff at all
and the API will get rotten, as usual.


Takashi

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Re: Alsa 1.0.14?

[enigma_0Z]

On 11/27/06, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> At Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:04:47 -0800,
> Tobin Davis wrote:
> >
> > With as much that has changed since alsa-1.0.13, can we expect to start
> > rolling out 1.0.14 soon?  The more users testing the changes, the
> > cleaner it gets.
>
> Yes, I'm for release 1.0.14, at least, for drivers.
>
> The question is still about device enumeration API in alsa-lib.
> We have no real implementations in the application side, except for
> aplay.  IMO, we'll need to create patches to major apps / system by
> ourselves to push this API, instead of just waiting for their
> implementations.  Otherwise no one will use such a new stuff at all
> and the API will get rotten, as usual.
>
>
> Takashi
>
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Can we wait until the conexant patches are finalized? There are still
some problems.

Mainly that the new patch (patch10) that has been integrated into hg
causes some opengl apps to slow down. I'm not sure how, and no
messages show up in the logs, but reinstalling a different version
(1.0.12, and i'm not sure how it's been patched) fixes the problem. It
seems like there's some polling going on in the new driver that eats
up cpu time from opengl apps.

Of course, sound with the older hacked version does not work with wine...

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Re: Alsa 1.0.14?

[Takashi Iwai]

At Mon, 27 Nov 2006 12:35:34 -0500,
enigma_0Z wrote:
> 
> On 11/27/06, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> > At Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:04:47 -0800,
> > Tobin Davis wrote:
> > >
> > > With as much that has changed since alsa-1.0.13, can we expect to start
> > > rolling out 1.0.14 soon?  The more users testing the changes, the
> > > cleaner it gets.
> >
> > Yes, I'm for release 1.0.14, at least, for drivers.
> >
> > The question is still about device enumeration API in alsa-lib.
> > We have no real implementations in the application side, except for
> > aplay.  IMO, we'll need to create patches to major apps / system by
> > ourselves to push this API, instead of just waiting for their
> > implementations.  Otherwise no one will use such a new stuff at all
> > and the API will get rotten, as usual.
> >
> >
> > Takashi
> >
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> 
> Can we wait until the conexant patches are finalized? There are still
> some problems.

> 
> Mainly that the new patch (patch10) that has been integrated into hg
> causes some opengl apps to slow down. I'm not sure how, and no
> messages show up in the logs, but reinstalling a different version
> (1.0.12, and i'm not sure how it's been patched) fixes the problem. It
> seems like there's some polling going on in the new driver that eats
> up cpu time from opengl apps.
> 
> Of course, sound with the older hacked version does not work with wine...

That's actually no problem unless the development of conexant patch
takes too long.  Usually we release firstly a couple of rc's.  The
pending patches can be merged during that phase. 


Takashi

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