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From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: nigel@nigel.suspend2.net,
	Kexec Mailing List <kexec@lists.infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Jeremy Maitin-Shepard <jbms@cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2 -mm] kexec based hibernation -v5
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:19:32 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1192159172.17539.26.camel@caritas-dev.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200710111217.58473.rjw@sisk.pl>

On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 12:17 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Thursday, 11 October 2007 04:13, Huang, Ying wrote:
> > Kexec base hibernation has some potential advantages over uswsusp and
> > TuxOnIce (suspend2). Some most obvious advantages are:
> 
> Well, I have some doubts as far as the obviousness is concerned.

OK, I will remove the "obvious".

> > 1. The hibernation image size can exceed half of memory size easily.
> 
> This is also possible with TuxOnIce.

I will add detail description about this. It is possible with TuxOnIce,
and hard with u/swsusp.

> 
> > 2. The hibernation image can be written to and read from almost
> >    anywhere, such as USB disk, NFS.
> 
> This is possible with uswsusp, at least in theory, probably with TuxOnIce too.

I will remove this.

> > 3. It is possible to eliminate freezer from kexec based hibernation
> >    implementation.
> 
> This isn't true as long as we have not changed the handling of devices
> (which is in the works, but will take time).

I know it has not been implemented yet. I just say that it is possible
for khibernation and it is almost impossible for u/swsusp and TuxOnIce.

> > 4. Based on kexec/kdump implementation, the kernel code needed is
> >    less.
> 
> Well, maybe.
> 

Best Regards,
Huang Ying

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From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	nigel@nigel.suspend2.net,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jeremy Maitin-Shepard <jbms@cmu.edu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Kexec Mailing List <kexec@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2 -mm] kexec based hibernation -v5
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:19:32 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1192159172.17539.26.camel@caritas-dev.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200710111217.58473.rjw@sisk.pl>

On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 12:17 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Thursday, 11 October 2007 04:13, Huang, Ying wrote:
> > Kexec base hibernation has some potential advantages over uswsusp and
> > TuxOnIce (suspend2). Some most obvious advantages are:
> 
> Well, I have some doubts as far as the obviousness is concerned.

OK, I will remove the "obvious".

> > 1. The hibernation image size can exceed half of memory size easily.
> 
> This is also possible with TuxOnIce.

I will add detail description about this. It is possible with TuxOnIce,
and hard with u/swsusp.

> 
> > 2. The hibernation image can be written to and read from almost
> >    anywhere, such as USB disk, NFS.
> 
> This is possible with uswsusp, at least in theory, probably with TuxOnIce too.

I will remove this.

> > 3. It is possible to eliminate freezer from kexec based hibernation
> >    implementation.
> 
> This isn't true as long as we have not changed the handling of devices
> (which is in the works, but will take time).

I know it has not been implemented yet. I just say that it is possible
for khibernation and it is almost impossible for u/swsusp and TuxOnIce.

> > 4. Based on kexec/kdump implementation, the kernel code needed is
> >    less.
> 
> Well, maybe.
> 

Best Regards,
Huang Ying

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-12  3:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-11  2:13 [PATCH 0/2 -mm] kexec based hibernation -v5 Huang, Ying
2007-10-11  2:13 ` Huang, Ying
2007-10-11 10:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-10-11 10:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-10-11 10:17   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-10-12  3:19   ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2007-10-12  3:19     ` Huang, Ying
2007-10-12 11:37     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-10-12 11:37     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-10-12 11:37       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-10-12  3:19   ` Huang, Ying
2007-10-19 19:53 ` Phillip Susi
2007-10-19 19:53 ` Phillip Susi
2007-10-19 19:53   ` Phillip Susi
2007-10-20  1:53   ` david
2007-10-20  1:53   ` david
2007-10-20  1:53     ` david
2007-10-20  5:50   ` huang ying
2007-10-20  5:50     ` huang ying
2007-10-20  5:50   ` huang ying
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-10-11  2:13 Huang, Ying

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