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From: Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 17/20] non-reclaimable mlocked pages
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:08:38 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1198080519.5333.28.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071219095307.683978b0@cuia.boston.redhat.com>

On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 09:53 -0500, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:24:07 +0100
> Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> 
> > I thought Lee had patches that moved pages with long rmap chains (both
> > anon and file) out onto the non-reclaim list, for those a slow
> > background scan does make sense.
> 
> I suspect we won't be needing that code.  The SEQ replacement for
> swap backed pages might reduce the number of pages that need to
> be scanned to a reasonable number.
> 
> Remember, steady states are not a big problem with the current VM.
> It's the sudden burst of scanning that happens when the VM decides
> that it should start swapping (and every anonymous page is referenced)
> that kills large systems.

Yes, I still have the patch [for long anon_vma lists--not for
excessively mapped file, yet] and I'm keeping it up to date and tested.
I do see softlockups on the anon_vma and i_mmap_locks under stress, even
with the reader/writer lock patches.  I'll be trying the workloads on
Rik's latest patches to see if they address these lockups.

Lee


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From: Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 17/20] non-reclaimable mlocked pages
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:08:38 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1198080519.5333.28.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071219095307.683978b0@cuia.boston.redhat.com>

On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 09:53 -0500, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:24:07 +0100
> Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> 
> > I thought Lee had patches that moved pages with long rmap chains (both
> > anon and file) out onto the non-reclaim list, for those a slow
> > background scan does make sense.
> 
> I suspect we won't be needing that code.  The SEQ replacement for
> swap backed pages might reduce the number of pages that need to
> be scanned to a reasonable number.
> 
> Remember, steady states are not a big problem with the current VM.
> It's the sudden burst of scanning that happens when the VM decides
> that it should start swapping (and every anonymous page is referenced)
> that kills large systems.

Yes, I still have the patch [for long anon_vma lists--not for
excessively mapped file, yet] and I'm keeping it up to date and tested.
I do see softlockups on the anon_vma and i_mmap_locks under stress, even
with the reader/writer lock patches.  I'll be trying the workloads on
Rik's latest patches to see if they address these lockups.

Lee

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-19 16:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-18 21:15 [patch 00/20] VM pageout scalability improvements Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15 ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15 ` [patch 01/20] convert anon_vma list lock a read/write lock Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15   ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-20  7:07   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-20  7:07     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-18 21:15 ` [patch 02/20] make the inode i_mmap_lock a reader/writer lock Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15   ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-19  0:48   ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-19  0:48     ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-19  4:09     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2007-12-19  4:09       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2007-12-19 15:52     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-12-19 15:52       ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-12-19 16:31       ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-19 16:31         ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-19 16:53         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-12-19 16:53           ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-12-19 19:28           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-12-19 19:28             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-12-19 23:40             ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-19 23:40               ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-20  7:04               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-20  7:04                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-20  7:59                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-20  7:59                   ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-02 23:35                   ` Mike Travis
2008-01-02 23:35                     ` Mike Travis
2008-01-03  6:07                     ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-03  6:07                       ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-03  8:55                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-03  8:55                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-07  9:01                         ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-07  9:01                           ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-18 21:15 ` [patch 03/20] move isolate_lru_page() to vmscan.c Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15   ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-20  7:08   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-20  7:08     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-18 21:15 ` [patch 04/20] free swap space on swap-in/activation Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15   ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15 ` [patch 05/20] define page_file_cache() function Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15   ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15 ` [patch 06/20] debugging checks for page_file_cache() Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15   ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15 ` [patch 07/20] Use an indexed array for LRU variables Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15   ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15 ` [patch 08/20] split LRU lists into anon & file sets Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15   ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15 ` [patch 09/20] split anon & file LRUs for memcontrol code Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15   ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15 ` [patch 10/20] SEQ replacement for anonymous pages Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15   ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-19  5:17   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2007-12-19  5:17     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2007-12-19 13:40     ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-19 13:40       ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-20  2:04       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2007-12-20  2:04         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2007-12-18 21:15 ` [patch 11/20] add newly swapped in pages to the inactive list Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15   ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15 ` [patch 12/20] No Reclaim LRU Infrastructure Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15   ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15 ` [patch 13/20] Non-reclaimable page statistics Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15   ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15 ` [patch 14/20] Scan noreclaim list for reclaimable pages Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15   ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15 ` [patch 15/20] ramfs pages are non-reclaimable Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15   ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15 ` [patch 16/20] SHM_LOCKED pages are nonreclaimable Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15   ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15 ` [patch 17/20] non-reclaimable mlocked pages Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15   ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-19  0:56   ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-19  0:56     ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-19 13:45     ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-19 13:45       ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-19 14:24       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-12-19 14:24         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-12-19 14:53         ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-19 14:53           ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-19 16:08           ` Lee Schermerhorn [this message]
2007-12-19 16:08             ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-12-19 16:04       ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-12-19 16:04         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-12-20 20:56         ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-20 20:56           ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-21 10:52           ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-21 10:52             ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-21 14:17             ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-21 14:17               ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-23 12:22               ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-24  1:00                 ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-24  1:00                   ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-19 23:34       ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-19 23:34         ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-20  7:19     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-20  7:19       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-20 15:33       ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-20 15:33         ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-21 17:13         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-12-21 17:13           ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-12-18 21:15 ` [patch 18/20] mlock vma pages under mmap_sem held for read Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15   ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15 ` [patch 19/20] handle mlocked pages during map/unmap and truncate Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15   ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15 ` [patch 20/20] account mlocked pages Rik van Riel
2007-12-18 21:15   ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-22 20:27 ` [patch 00/20] VM pageout scalability improvements Balbir Singh
2007-12-22 20:27   ` Balbir Singh
2007-12-23  0:21   ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-23  0:21     ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-23 22:59     ` Balbir Singh
2007-12-23 22:59       ` Balbir Singh
2007-12-24  1:11       ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-24  1:11         ` Rik van Riel
2007-12-28  3:20         ` Matt Mackall
2007-12-28  3:20           ` Matt Mackall

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