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From: Dor Laor <dor.laor-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Javier Guerra Giraldez <javier-796Irmz5ZkZBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	ir Peleg <nir-DHAoeUZcRjAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel-qX2TKyscuCcdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] e1000 emulation code
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:27:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1199964449.3274.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200801092308.46482.javier-796Irmz5ZkZBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>


On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 23:08 -0500, Javier Guerra Giraldez wrote:
> On Wednesday 09 January 2008, Dor Laor wrote:
> > Some figures: Linux rx 350Mbps, tx 150bps, Windows rx 700mbps, tx 100 mbps.
> 
> very nice!
> 
> in a related note, the VMWare tools package, which is supposed to 'enhance 
> performance' by installing 'specially tuned' drivers into a guest, doesn't 
> include net or HD drivers for linux!  i was surprised, but it simply said 

Vmware has a nice trick to online change an emulated amd nic into a pv
mode nic.

> that using e1000 emulation on 64bit linux was optimised enough.  since i saw 
> good performance (no hard benchmarks, but definitely not bad); i thought that 
> they do some paravirtualizification at runtime as part of their software 
> recompiling (because they're much older than HVM-capable processors).
> 
> now it seems that there are higher-level hardware that can be emulated far 
> more efficiently than the original set of QEMU hardware.

This is just a newer device with some coalescing abilities and tso, pv
driver can always be better since they are not bound to any
specification.

btw: I wonder when qemu will get virtio drivers.
 
> 
> the next step would be to emulate LSI SCSI chips, eh?
> 


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WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Dor Laor <dor.laor@gmail.com>
To: Javier Guerra Giraldez <javier@guerrag.com>
Cc: kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, ir Peleg <nir@tutis.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] [PATCH] e1000 emulation code
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:27:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1199964449.3274.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200801092308.46482.javier@guerrag.com>


On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 23:08 -0500, Javier Guerra Giraldez wrote:
> On Wednesday 09 January 2008, Dor Laor wrote:
> > Some figures: Linux rx 350Mbps, tx 150bps, Windows rx 700mbps, tx 100 mbps.
> 
> very nice!
> 
> in a related note, the VMWare tools package, which is supposed to 'enhance 
> performance' by installing 'specially tuned' drivers into a guest, doesn't 
> include net or HD drivers for linux!  i was surprised, but it simply said 

Vmware has a nice trick to online change an emulated amd nic into a pv
mode nic.

> that using e1000 emulation on 64bit linux was optimised enough.  since i saw 
> good performance (no hard benchmarks, but definitely not bad); i thought that 
> they do some paravirtualizification at runtime as part of their software 
> recompiling (because they're much older than HVM-capable processors).
> 
> now it seems that there are higher-level hardware that can be emulated far 
> more efficiently than the original set of QEMU hardware.

This is just a newer device with some coalescing abilities and tso, pv
driver can always be better since they are not bound to any
specification.

btw: I wonder when qemu will get virtio drivers.
 
> 
> the next step would be to emulate LSI SCSI chips, eh?
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-10 11:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-09 16:42 [PATCH] e1000 emulation code Dor Laor
2008-01-09 16:42 ` [Qemu-devel] " Dor Laor
     [not found] ` <1199896975.4382.31.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-09 20:29   ` Alexey Eremenko
2008-01-09 20:29     ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] " Alexey Eremenko
2008-01-09 23:40   ` Alex Williamson
2008-01-09 23:40     ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] " Alex Williamson
2008-01-10  4:08   ` Javier Guerra Giraldez
2008-01-10  4:08     ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] " Javier Guerra Giraldez
     [not found]     ` <200801092308.46482.javier-796Irmz5ZkZBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-10 11:27       ` Dor Laor [this message]
2008-01-10 11:27         ` Dor Laor
2008-01-10 15:36       ` [Qemu-devel] " Paul Brook
2008-01-10 15:36         ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] " Paul Brook
     [not found]         ` <200801101536.20530.paul-qD8j1LwMmJjtCj0u4l0SBw@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-10 18:58           ` [Qemu-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2008-01-10 18:58             ` [kvm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2008-01-10 16:58   ` [Qemu-devel] " andrzej zaborowski
2008-01-10 16:58     ` andrzej zaborowski
     [not found]     ` <fb249edb0801100858h7d91f1d7u3ac6ec67ff7d31ef-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-10 23:12       ` Dor Laor
2008-01-10 23:12         ` Dor Laor
     [not found]         ` <4786A66F.1010509-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-11  0:35           ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-01-11  0:35             ` andrzej zaborowski

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