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From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: nigel@nigel.suspend2.net,
	Kexec Mailing List <kexec@lists.infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 10:08:06 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1210903686.23707.171.camel@caritas-dev.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080516015142.GB6926@redhat.com>

On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 21:51 -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 09:48:34AM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 16:09 -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > [...]
> > > Ok, You want to make BIOS calls. We already do that using vm86 mode and
> > > use bios real mode interrupts. So why do we need this interface? Or, IOW,
> > > how is this interface better?
> > 
> > It can call code in 32-bit physical mode in addition to real mode. So It
> > can be used to call EFI runtime service, especially call EFI 64 runtime
> > service under 32-bit kernel or vice versa.
> > 
> > The main purpose of kexec jump is for hibernation. But I think if the
> > effort is small, why not support general 32-bit physical mode code call
> > at same time.
> > 
> 
> In general what's the environment requirements for EFI runtime 
> services? I mean, just that processor should be in protected mode with
> paging disabled or one need to stop all other cpus and devices and then make
> the call (as we are doing in this case?). 

Put processor in protected mode with paging disabled is sufficient. In
one of previous kexec jump versions, I provide some option to choose the
state saved (whether stop other cpus, whether stop devices).

I agree that now we should focus on kexec based hibernation. But I think
it is reasonable to keep the possibility with minimal effort.

Best Regards,
Huang Ying


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From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	nigel@nigel.suspend2.net, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Kexec Mailing List <kexec@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 10:08:06 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1210903686.23707.171.camel@caritas-dev.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080516015142.GB6926@redhat.com>

On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 21:51 -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 09:48:34AM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 16:09 -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > [...]
> > > Ok, You want to make BIOS calls. We already do that using vm86 mode and
> > > use bios real mode interrupts. So why do we need this interface? Or, IOW,
> > > how is this interface better?
> > 
> > It can call code in 32-bit physical mode in addition to real mode. So It
> > can be used to call EFI runtime service, especially call EFI 64 runtime
> > service under 32-bit kernel or vice versa.
> > 
> > The main purpose of kexec jump is for hibernation. But I think if the
> > effort is small, why not support general 32-bit physical mode code call
> > at same time.
> > 
> 
> In general what's the environment requirements for EFI runtime 
> services? I mean, just that processor should be in protected mode with
> paging disabled or one need to stop all other cpus and devices and then make
> the call (as we are doing in this case?). 

Put processor in protected mode with paging disabled is sufficient. In
one of previous kexec jump versions, I provide some option to choose the
state saved (whether stop other cpus, whether stop devices).

I agree that now we should focus on kexec based hibernation. But I think
it is reasonable to keep the possibility with minimal effort.

Best Regards,
Huang Ying


  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-16  2:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 254+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-06  3:13 [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9 Huang, Ying
2008-03-06  3:13 ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-11 21:10 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-03-11 21:10   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-03-11 21:59   ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-03-11 21:59   ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-03-11 21:59     ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-03-11 23:55     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-11 23:55     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-11 23:55       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-12  0:09     ` david
2008-03-12  0:09       ` david
2008-03-12  0:09     ` david
2008-03-12  2:14     ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-12  2:14       ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-12 18:53       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-03-12 18:53       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-03-12 18:53         ` Vivek Goyal
2008-03-13  0:01         ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-13  0:01           ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-13  0:01         ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-12  2:14     ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-11 22:18   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-11 22:18     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-12  2:02     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-12  2:02     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-12  2:02       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-12  2:26     ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-12  2:26     ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-12  2:26       ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-11 22:18   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-11 23:24   ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-11 23:24     ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-11 23:49     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-11 23:49       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-12  1:55       ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-12  1:55         ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-12 15:01         ` Alan Stern
2008-03-12 15:01         ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-03-12 15:01           ` Alan Stern
2008-03-12 21:53           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-12 21:53             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-13  0:33             ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-13  0:33             ` [linux-pm] " Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-13  0:33               ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-13 17:03               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-13 17:03               ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-13 17:03                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-13 23:07                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-13 23:07                 ` [linux-pm] " Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-13 23:07                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-14  1:31                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-14  1:31                   ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-14  1:31                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-18 16:56                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-18 23:52                       ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-18 23:52                         ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-18 23:52                       ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-19  0:08                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-19  0:08                       ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-19  0:08                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-19  2:33                         ` Alan Stern
2008-03-19  2:33                         ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-03-19  2:33                           ` Alan Stern
2008-03-19  3:25                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-19  3:25                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-19 15:01                             ` Alan Stern
2008-03-19 15:01                             ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-03-19 15:01                               ` Alan Stern
2008-03-19 19:28                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-19 19:28                               ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-19 19:28                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-20 10:40                             ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-20 10:40                             ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2008-03-20 10:40                               ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-20 22:45                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-20 22:45                               ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-20 22:45                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-20 23:01                                 ` Alan Stern
2008-03-20 23:01                                   ` Alan Stern
2008-03-20 23:22                                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-20 23:22                                   ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2008-03-20 23:22                                     ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-20 23:40                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-20 23:40                                     ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-20 23:40                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-21  0:36                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-21  0:36                                       ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-21  0:36                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-21  0:52                                       ` Alan Stern
2008-03-21  0:52                                       ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-03-21  0:52                                         ` Alan Stern
2008-03-21 22:05                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-03-21 22:05                                         ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2008-03-21 22:05                                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-03-22 16:21                                         ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-22 16:21                                         ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2008-03-22 16:21                                           ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-22 17:45                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-22 17:45                                           ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-22 17:45                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-22 20:49                                             ` Alan Stern
2008-03-22 20:49                                             ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-03-22 20:49                                               ` Alan Stern
2008-03-22 21:29                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-22 21:29                                               ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-22 21:29                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-14 22:38                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-14 22:38                                                 ` [linux-pm] " Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-14 22:38                                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-14 23:47                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-14 23:47                                                   ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-14 23:47                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-15 20:55                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-15 20:55                                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-15 21:20                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-15 21:20                                                       ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-15 21:20                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-15 20:55                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-20 23:01                                 ` Alan Stern
2008-05-14 20:41                       ` [linux-pm] " Maxim Levitsky
2008-05-14 20:41                         ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-05-14 23:34                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-14 23:34                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-14 23:34                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-14 20:41                       ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-03-18 16:56                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-12 21:53           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-12  1:55       ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-12  8:57       ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-12  8:57       ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-12  8:57         ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-11 23:49     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-12  0:00     ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-03-12  0:00     ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-03-12  0:00       ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-03-11 23:24   ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-12  1:45   ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-12  1:45     ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-12  2:17     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-12  2:17     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-12  2:17       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-12  6:54       ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-12  6:54         ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-12  6:54       ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-12 19:37       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-03-12 19:37       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-03-12 19:37         ` Vivek Goyal
2008-03-14  8:03         ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-14  8:03           ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-21 19:12           ` Vivek Goyal
2008-03-21 19:12             ` Vivek Goyal
2008-03-21 19:12             ` Vivek Goyal
2008-03-25  7:25             ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-25  7:25             ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-25  7:25               ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-14  8:03         ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-12 19:47     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-03-12 19:47     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-03-12 19:47       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-03-12  1:45   ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-11 21:10 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-04-09  9:34 ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-09  9:34   ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-09 12:30   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-04-09 12:30   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-04-09 12:30     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-04-09  9:34 ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-14 16:03 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-14 16:03 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-14 16:03   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-14 17:49   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-14 17:49     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-14 17:49   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-14 20:52 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-14 20:52   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-15  2:32   ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-15  2:32   ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-15  2:32     ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-15 20:09     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-15 20:09     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-15 20:09       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-16  1:48       ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-16  1:48       ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-16  1:48         ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-16  1:51         ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-16  1:51           ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-16  2:08           ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2008-05-16  2:08             ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-16  2:08           ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-16  1:51         ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-16 12:13         ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-16 12:13         ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-16 12:13           ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-15  5:41   ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-15  5:41   ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-15  5:41     ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-15 18:42     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-15 18:42       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-15 18:42     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-16  0:51     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-16  0:51       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-16  1:35       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-16  1:35       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-16  1:35         ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-16  1:55         ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-16  1:55           ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-16  1:55         ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-27  7:27       ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-27  7:27         ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-27 22:15         ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-27 22:15           ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-28  1:35           ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-28  1:35             ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-28  1:35           ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-27 22:15         ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-27  7:27       ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-16  0:51     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-14 20:52 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-14 22:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-14 22:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-14 22:30   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-14 23:55   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-14 23:55   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-14 23:55     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-15 22:03     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-15 22:03       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-15 23:20       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-15 23:20         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-15 23:20       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-16 12:18       ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-16 12:18         ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-16 12:18       ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-16 14:20       ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-05-16 14:20         ` Alan Stern
2008-05-16 14:20       ` Alan Stern
2008-05-15 22:03     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-15  1:42   ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-15  1:42   ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-15  1:42     ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-15 19:05     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-15 19:05     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-15 19:05       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-15 14:14   ` Alan Stern
2008-05-15 14:14   ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-05-15 14:14     ` Alan Stern
2008-05-15 20:48     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-15 20:48     ` [linux-pm] " Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-15 20:48       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-15 21:07       ` Alan Stern
2008-05-15 21:07       ` Alan Stern
2008-05-15 21:07       ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-05-15 21:07         ` Alan Stern
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2008-03-06  3:13 Huang, Ying

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