From: "Phil Endecott" <phil_tuhck_endecott@chezphil.org>
To: Paul Collins <paul@burly.ondioline.org>
Cc: jkosina@suse.cz, linux-input@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org,
Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
Phil Endecott <phil_tuhck_endecott@chezphil.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RESEND] fix HID quirks for aluminium apple wireless keyboards
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:47:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1213786052191@dmwebmail.dmwebmail.chezphil.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mylj2ggu.fsf@burly.wgtn.ondioline.org>
Paul Collins wrote:
> "Phil Endecott" <phil_tuhck_endecott@chezphil.org> writes:
>
>> Why do you set HID_QUIRK_APPLE_NUMLOCK_EMULATION ? I don't know what
>> that quirk really does, but since these keyboards have neither a
>> numeric keypad nor a numlock key I can't see any benefit.
>
> From a quick skim of the code (drivers/hid/hid-input.c) it looks like
> it's supposed to allow a laptop-style numeric keymap mapping to be
> enabled with F6, but I can't make it do anything here. Perhaps it is
> best removed after the hid-bus merge, otherwise there'll be different
> quirks in different places for the same devices.
The general policy seems to be to make these keyboards behave the same
on Linux as they do with Macs. My guess is that they don't have any
numeric keypad emulation feature on Macs - can anyone confirm? In that
case it shouldn't be enabled. Personally, I wouldn't like to
accidentally press F6 (e.g. pressing all the fn keys in turn looking
for the "right one"), and then discover that half of the
letter/punctuation keys were broken, and have no idea how to "fix" it.
Phil.
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From: "Phil Endecott" <phil_tuhck_endecott@chezphil.org>
To: "Paul Collins" <paul@burly.ondioline.org>
Cc: <jkosina@suse.cz>, <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
"Marcel Holtmann" <marcel@holtmann.org>,
"Phil Endecott" <phil_tuhck_endecott@chezphil.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RESEND] fix HID quirks for aluminium apple wireless keyboards
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:47:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1213786052191@dmwebmail.dmwebmail.chezphil.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mylj2ggu.fsf@burly.wgtn.ondioline.org>
Paul Collins wrote:
> "Phil Endecott" <phil_tuhck_endecott@chezphil.org> writes:
>
>> Why do you set HID_QUIRK_APPLE_NUMLOCK_EMULATION ? I don't know what
>> that quirk really does, but since these keyboards have neither a
>> numeric keypad nor a numlock key I can't see any benefit.
>
> From a quick skim of the code (drivers/hid/hid-input.c) it looks like
> it's supposed to allow a laptop-style numeric keymap mapping to be
> enabled with F6, but I can't make it do anything here. Perhaps it is
> best removed after the hid-bus merge, otherwise there'll be different
> quirks in different places for the same devices.
The general policy seems to be to make these keyboards behave the same
on Linux as they do with Macs. My guess is that they don't have any
numeric keypad emulation feature on Macs - can anyone confirm? In that
case it shouldn't be enabled. Personally, I wouldn't like to
accidentally press F6 (e.g. pressing all the fn keys in turn looking
for the "right one"), and then discover that half of the
letter/punctuation keys were broken, and have no idea how to "fix" it.
Phil.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-18 11:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-12 12:26 [PATCH] fix HID quirks for aluminium apple wireless keyboards Paul Collins
2008-06-12 12:26 ` Paul Collins
[not found] ` <87iqweltzo.fsf-D7l3p2TGOOdLdt5/z87VRY6ehsQQaF5K@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-12 12:57 ` [PATCH] [RESEND] " Paul Collins
2008-06-12 12:57 ` Paul Collins
2008-06-12 13:17 ` Phil Endecott
2008-06-12 13:17 ` Phil Endecott
[not found] ` <1213276636216-YnoLgZYwwYuCbKHnblo0pmrPP3OPMK55cpQHUIT47Ck@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-12 14:55 ` Paul Collins
2008-06-12 14:55 ` Paul Collins
2008-06-12 20:08 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-06-14 8:03 ` Paul Collins
2008-06-14 12:22 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-06-17 13:54 ` Jiri Kosina
2008-06-14 12:51 ` Phil Endecott
2008-06-14 12:51 ` Phil Endecott
2008-06-18 10:19 ` Paul Collins
2008-06-18 10:19 ` Paul Collins
2008-06-18 10:47 ` Phil Endecott [this message]
2008-06-18 10:47 ` Phil Endecott
2008-06-27 16:32 ` Jan Scholz
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