From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu <eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro>
Cc: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
cl@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/4] kmemtrace: Core implementation.
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:07:20 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1216411640.3712.16.camel@calx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080718194059.GA5238@localhost>
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 22:40 +0300, Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 05:38:04PM +0300, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> > Hi Eduard-Gabriel,
> > > I do expect to keep things source-compatible, but even
> > > binary-compatible? Developers debug and write patches on the latest kernel,
> > > not on a 6-month-old kernel. Isn't it reasonable that they would
> > > recompile kmemtrace along with the kernel?
> >
> > Yes, I do think it's unreasonable. I, for one, am hoping distributions
> > will pick up the kmemtrace userspace at some point after which I don't
> > need to ever compile it myself.
>
> Ok, I agree it's nice to have it in distros. I wasn't planning for this,
> but it's good to know others' expectations.
It's worth pointing out that this is one of the big downfalls of things
like systemtap. If a tool can't just work out of the box for a distro,
it's basically a non-starter for most users.
--
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.
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From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu <eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro>
Cc: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
cl@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/4] kmemtrace: Core implementation.
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:07:20 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1216411640.3712.16.camel@calx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080718194059.GA5238@localhost>
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 22:40 +0300, Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 05:38:04PM +0300, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> > Hi Eduard-Gabriel,
> > > I do expect to keep things source-compatible, but even
> > > binary-compatible? Developers debug and write patches on the latest kernel,
> > > not on a 6-month-old kernel. Isn't it reasonable that they would
> > > recompile kmemtrace along with the kernel?
> >
> > Yes, I do think it's unreasonable. I, for one, am hoping distributions
> > will pick up the kmemtrace userspace at some point after which I don't
> > need to ever compile it myself.
>
> Ok, I agree it's nice to have it in distros. I wasn't planning for this,
> but it's good to know others' expectations.
It's worth pointing out that this is one of the big downfalls of things
like systemtap. If a tool can't just work out of the box for a distro,
it's basically a non-starter for most users.
--
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.
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Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-17 0:46 [RFC PATCH 0/4] kmemtrace RFC (resubmit 1) Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-17 0:46 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-17 0:46 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] kmemtrace: Core implementation Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-17 0:46 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-17 8:01 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-07-17 8:01 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-07-17 18:32 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-17 18:32 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-18 8:48 ` Pekka J Enberg
2008-07-18 8:48 ` Pekka J Enberg
2008-07-18 10:13 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-18 10:13 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-18 14:38 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-07-18 14:38 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-07-18 19:40 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-18 19:40 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-18 20:07 ` Matt Mackall [this message]
2008-07-18 20:07 ` Matt Mackall
2008-07-17 21:34 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-07-17 21:34 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-07-17 23:49 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-17 23:49 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-17 0:46 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] kmemtrace: SLAB hooks Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-17 0:46 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-17 7:38 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-07-17 7:38 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-07-17 0:46 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] kmemtrace: SLUB hooks Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-17 0:46 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-17 7:46 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-07-17 7:46 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-07-17 18:06 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-17 18:06 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-17 0:46 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] kmemtrace: SLOB hooks Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-17 0:46 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-17 7:43 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-07-17 7:43 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-07-17 15:46 ` Matt Mackall
2008-07-17 15:46 ` Matt Mackall
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-07-22 18:31 [RFC PATCH 0/4] kmemtrace RFC (resend 2) Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-22 18:31 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] kmemtrace: Core implementation Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-22 18:31 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-22 21:28 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-22 21:28 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-23 0:50 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-23 0:50 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-23 0:55 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-23 0:55 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-23 1:26 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-23 1:26 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-22 18:36 [RFC PATCH 0/4] kmemtrace RFC (resend 2, fixed wrong Cc) Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-22 18:36 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] kmemtrace: Core implementation Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-22 18:36 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-28 9:24 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-07-28 9:24 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-07-28 16:29 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-28 16:29 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-28 17:09 ` Matt Mackall
2008-07-28 17:09 ` Matt Mackall
2008-07-28 17:35 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-29 8:25 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-07-29 8:25 ` Pekka Enberg
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