From: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
agl@us.ibm.com, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] Report the pagesize backing a VMA in /proc/pid/smaps
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:23:10 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1222284190.15523.64.camel@nimitz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080924191107.GA31324@csn.ul.ie>
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 20:11 +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> I don't get what you mean by it being sprinkled in each smaps file. How
> would you present the data?
1. figure out what the file path is from smaps
2. look up the mount
3. look up the page sizes from the mount's information
> > We should be able to figure out which
> > mount the file is from and, from there, maybe we need some per-mount
> > information exported.
>
> Per-mount information is already exported and you can infer the data about
> huge pagesizes. For example, if you know the default huge pagesize (from
> /proc/meminfo), and the file is on hugetlbfs (read maps, then /proc/mounts)
> and there is no pagesize= mount option (mounts again), you could guess what the
> hugepage that is backing a VMA is. Shared memory segments are a little harder
> but again, you can infer the information if you look around for long enough.
>
> However, this is awkward and not very user-friendly. With the patches (minus
> MMUPageSize as I think we've agreed to postpone that), it's easy to see what
> pagesize is being used at a glance. Without it, you need to know a fair bit
> about hugepages are implemented in Linux to infer the information correctly.
I agree completely. But, if we consider this a user ABI thing, then
we're stuck with it for a long time, and we better make it flexible
enough to at least contain the gunk we're planning on adding in a small
number of years, like the fallback. We don't want to be adding this
stuff if it isn't going to be stable.
-- Dave
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From: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
agl@us.ibm.com, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] Report the pagesize backing a VMA in /proc/pid/smaps
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:23:10 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1222284190.15523.64.camel@nimitz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080924191107.GA31324@csn.ul.ie>
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 20:11 +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> I don't get what you mean by it being sprinkled in each smaps file. How
> would you present the data?
1. figure out what the file path is from smaps
2. look up the mount
3. look up the page sizes from the mount's information
> > We should be able to figure out which
> > mount the file is from and, from there, maybe we need some per-mount
> > information exported.
>
> Per-mount information is already exported and you can infer the data about
> huge pagesizes. For example, if you know the default huge pagesize (from
> /proc/meminfo), and the file is on hugetlbfs (read maps, then /proc/mounts)
> and there is no pagesize= mount option (mounts again), you could guess what the
> hugepage that is backing a VMA is. Shared memory segments are a little harder
> but again, you can infer the information if you look around for long enough.
>
> However, this is awkward and not very user-friendly. With the patches (minus
> MMUPageSize as I think we've agreed to postpone that), it's easy to see what
> pagesize is being used at a glance. Without it, you need to know a fair bit
> about hugepages are implemented in Linux to infer the information correctly.
I agree completely. But, if we consider this a user ABI thing, then
we're stuck with it for a long time, and we better make it flexible
enough to at least contain the gunk we're planning on adding in a small
number of years, like the fallback. We don't want to be adding this
stuff if it isn't going to be stable.
-- Dave
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Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-22 1:38 [PATCH 0/2] Report the pagesize backing VMAs in /proc Mel Gorman
2008-09-22 1:38 ` Mel Gorman
2008-09-22 1:38 ` [PATCH 1/2] Report the pagesize backing a VMA in /proc/pid/smaps Mel Gorman
2008-09-22 1:38 ` Mel Gorman
2008-09-22 8:30 ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-22 8:30 ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-22 16:17 ` Mel Gorman
2008-09-22 16:17 ` Mel Gorman
2008-09-22 15:55 ` Dave Hansen
2008-09-22 15:55 ` Dave Hansen
2008-09-22 16:21 ` Mel Gorman
2008-09-22 16:21 ` Mel Gorman
2008-09-22 16:48 ` Dave Hansen
2008-09-22 16:48 ` Dave Hansen
2008-09-23 12:15 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-09-23 12:15 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-09-23 19:46 ` Mel Gorman
2008-09-23 19:46 ` Mel Gorman
2008-09-24 12:32 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-09-24 12:32 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-09-24 15:41 ` Mel Gorman
2008-09-24 15:41 ` Mel Gorman
2008-09-24 16:06 ` Dave Hansen
2008-09-24 16:06 ` Dave Hansen
2008-09-24 17:10 ` Mel Gorman
2008-09-24 17:10 ` Mel Gorman
2008-09-24 18:59 ` Dave Hansen
2008-09-24 18:59 ` Dave Hansen
2008-09-24 19:11 ` Mel Gorman
2008-09-24 19:11 ` Mel Gorman
2008-09-24 19:23 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2008-09-24 19:23 ` Dave Hansen
2008-09-24 23:39 ` Mel Gorman
2008-09-24 23:39 ` Mel Gorman
2008-09-24 23:42 ` Mel Gorman
2008-09-24 23:42 ` Mel Gorman
2008-09-25 12:23 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-09-22 1:38 ` [PATCH 2/2] Report the pagesize backing a VMA in /proc/pid/maps Mel Gorman
2008-09-22 1:38 ` Mel Gorman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-10-03 16:46 [PATCH 0/2] Report the size of pages backing VMAs in /proc V3 Mel Gorman
2008-10-03 16:46 ` [PATCH 1/2] Report the pagesize backing a VMA in /proc/pid/smaps Mel Gorman
2008-10-03 16:46 ` Mel Gorman
2008-10-08 21:38 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-10-08 21:38 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-10-09 2:16 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-10-09 2:16 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-10-09 10:24 ` Mel Gorman
2008-10-09 10:24 ` Mel Gorman
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