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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: PTE access rules & abstraction
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:04:46 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1222304686.8277.136.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0809250049270.21674@blonde.site>

On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 00:55 +0100, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> 
> Whyever not the latter?  Jeremy seems to have gifted that to you,
> for precisely such a purpose.

Yeah. Not that I don't quite understand what the point of the
start/modify/commit thing the way it's currently used in mprotect since
we are doing the whole transaction for a single PTE change, ie how does
that help with hypervisors vs. a single ptep_modify_protection() for
example is beyond me :-)

When I think about transactions, I think about starting a transaction,
changing a -bunch- of PTEs, then commiting... Essentially I see the PTE
lock thing as being a transaction.

Cheers,
Ben.

> Hugh
> 
> p.s. I surely agree with you over the name ptep_get_and_clear_full():
> horrid, even more confusing than the tlb->fullmm from which it derives
> its name.  I expect I'd agree with you over a lot more too, but
> please, bugfixes first.

Sure.




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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: PTE access rules & abstraction
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:04:46 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1222304686.8277.136.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0809250049270.21674@blonde.site>

On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 00:55 +0100, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> 
> Whyever not the latter?  Jeremy seems to have gifted that to you,
> for precisely such a purpose.

Yeah. Not that I don't quite understand what the point of the
start/modify/commit thing the way it's currently used in mprotect since
we are doing the whole transaction for a single PTE change, ie how does
that help with hypervisors vs. a single ptep_modify_protection() for
example is beyond me :-)

When I think about transactions, I think about starting a transaction,
changing a -bunch- of PTEs, then commiting... Essentially I see the PTE
lock thing as being a transaction.

Cheers,
Ben.

> Hugh
> 
> p.s. I surely agree with you over the name ptep_get_and_clear_full():
> horrid, even more confusing than the tlb->fullmm from which it derives
> its name.  I expect I'd agree with you over a lot more too, but
> please, bugfixes first.

Sure.



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  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-25  1:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-19 17:42 PTE access rules & abstraction Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-19 17:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-22  6:22 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-22  6:22   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-22 21:05   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-22 21:05     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-23  3:10     ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-23  3:10       ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-23  3:16       ` David Miller
2008-09-23  3:16         ` David Miller, Nick Piggin
2008-09-23  5:35         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-23  5:35           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-23  6:18           ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-23  6:18             ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-23  5:31       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-23  5:31         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-23  6:13         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-23  6:13           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-23  6:49           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-23  6:49             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-23  9:50             ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-23  9:50               ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-23 11:54               ` peter
2008-09-23 11:54                 ` peter
2008-09-24 18:45     ` Hugh Dickins
2008-09-24 18:45       ` Hugh Dickins
2008-09-24 21:20       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-24 21:20         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-24 21:57         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-24 21:57           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-24 22:07           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-24 22:07             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-24 22:43             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-24 22:43               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-24 22:53               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-24 22:53                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-24 23:55         ` Hugh Dickins
2008-09-24 23:55           ` Hugh Dickins
2008-09-25  1:04           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2008-09-25  1:04             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-25 18:15             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-25 18:15               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-25 21:44               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-25 21:44                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-25 22:27                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-25 22:27                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-25 23:02                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-25 23:02                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-24 22:17       ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-09-24 22:17         ` Martin Schwidefsky

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