From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: PTE access rules & abstraction
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:04:46 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1222304686.8277.136.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0809250049270.21674@blonde.site>
On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 00:55 +0100, Hugh Dickins wrote:
>
> Whyever not the latter? Jeremy seems to have gifted that to you,
> for precisely such a purpose.
Yeah. Not that I don't quite understand what the point of the
start/modify/commit thing the way it's currently used in mprotect since
we are doing the whole transaction for a single PTE change, ie how does
that help with hypervisors vs. a single ptep_modify_protection() for
example is beyond me :-)
When I think about transactions, I think about starting a transaction,
changing a -bunch- of PTEs, then commiting... Essentially I see the PTE
lock thing as being a transaction.
Cheers,
Ben.
> Hugh
>
> p.s. I surely agree with you over the name ptep_get_and_clear_full():
> horrid, even more confusing than the tlb->fullmm from which it derives
> its name. I expect I'd agree with you over a lot more too, but
> please, bugfixes first.
Sure.
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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: PTE access rules & abstraction
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:04:46 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1222304686.8277.136.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0809250049270.21674@blonde.site>
On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 00:55 +0100, Hugh Dickins wrote:
>
> Whyever not the latter? Jeremy seems to have gifted that to you,
> for precisely such a purpose.
Yeah. Not that I don't quite understand what the point of the
start/modify/commit thing the way it's currently used in mprotect since
we are doing the whole transaction for a single PTE change, ie how does
that help with hypervisors vs. a single ptep_modify_protection() for
example is beyond me :-)
When I think about transactions, I think about starting a transaction,
changing a -bunch- of PTEs, then commiting... Essentially I see the PTE
lock thing as being a transaction.
Cheers,
Ben.
> Hugh
>
> p.s. I surely agree with you over the name ptep_get_and_clear_full():
> horrid, even more confusing than the tlb->fullmm from which it derives
> its name. I expect I'd agree with you over a lot more too, but
> please, bugfixes first.
Sure.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-25 1:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-19 17:42 PTE access rules & abstraction Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-19 17:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-22 6:22 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-22 6:22 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-22 21:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-22 21:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-23 3:10 ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-23 3:10 ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-23 3:16 ` David Miller
2008-09-23 3:16 ` David Miller, Nick Piggin
2008-09-23 5:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-23 5:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-23 6:18 ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-23 6:18 ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-23 5:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-23 5:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-23 6:13 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-23 6:13 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-23 6:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-23 6:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-23 9:50 ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-23 9:50 ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-23 11:54 ` peter
2008-09-23 11:54 ` peter
2008-09-24 18:45 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-09-24 18:45 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-09-24 21:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-24 21:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-24 21:57 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-24 21:57 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-24 22:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-24 22:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-24 22:43 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-24 22:43 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-24 22:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-24 22:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-24 23:55 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-09-24 23:55 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-09-25 1:04 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2008-09-25 1:04 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-25 18:15 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-25 18:15 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-25 21:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-25 21:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-25 22:27 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-25 22:27 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-25 23:02 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-25 23:02 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-24 22:17 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-09-24 22:17 ` Martin Schwidefsky
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