From: Marcel Holtmann <holtmann@linux.intel.com>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <lrodriguez@atheros.com>,
Zhu Yi <yi.zhu@intel.com>,
Luis Rodriguez <Luis.Rodriguez@atheros.com>,
Tomas Winkler <tomasw@gmail.com>,
"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
"Kolekar, Abhijeet" <abhijeet.kolekar@intel.com>,
"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: New Regulatory Domain Api.
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:39:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1224607196.9386.91.camel@californication> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1224572722.27899.87.camel@johannes.berg>
Hi Johannes,
> > There are many
> > design flaws with this; an obvious problem to this is what is a band?
> > In my patch I took the liberty to define that a frequency is part of a
> > band if a rule was present within 2 GHz of itself. This works but it
> > is trying to make a definition out of something that doesn't exist --
> > its trying to solve the wrong problem. Since regulatory database is in
> > KHz it is designed to allow us to grow regardless of band notions or
> > associations. In the regulatory database we allow for 2 GHz, 5 GHz,
> > etc KH definitions for any country and this was designed to account
> > for misinformation on drivers to help the user be more compliant. By
> > changing the design to what you are suggesting you'd have to add a
> > dummy rule for every frequency "band" if you really want to disable
> > all other bands.
>
> Yes, this is a problem, but then again it's fairly well-defined which is
> 2.4 and which is 5 GHz band, and it probably doesn't matter much at this
> point. cfg80211 _has_ a notion of bands.
>
> If we really wanted to have band-specific hints to let a driver say
> "nay, sorry, I know nothing about 5 GHz" then we can I think do this,
> subject to a few constraints:
> * first hint that contains a band wins this band
> * without any other information, a band that we know nothing about is
> disabled (just like the default state would be when we know nothing
> at all)
>
> This ought to be possible, maybe by simply moving from
>
> regulatory_hint(alpha2, structure)
>
> to
> regulatory_hint(alpha2)
>
> regulatory_struct_hint(structure, bandflags)
>
> where bandflags can be BIT(IEEE80211_BAND_2GHZ) or
> BIT(IEEE80211_BAND_5GHZ). It would be fairly easy to keep track of that
> information and build a common struct. No need to even bother looking at
> the frequencies, when you have a 2GHZ hint and get a 5GHZ one you simply
> add all the rules from the new hint. Yes, that could be abused to add
> more 2GHz rules, but we can "police" that code. And it can only be
> abused once because when the bit is already set we ignore the hint
> anyway.
I was more thinking about
regulatory_band_hint(band, structure)
and then you have to call it twice if you have 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz support
with your hardware. But your solution also works.
> > The proper solution is to either add 5 GHz regulatory rules to your
> > regulatory_hint()
>
> I strongly disagree with that. It's not correct in any way.
Yeah. A driver for 2.4 GHz hardware should not even think about any
other channels :)
Regards
Marcel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-21 16:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-09 22:17 New Regulatory Domain Api Kolekar, Abhijeet
2008-10-09 15:45 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-10 3:22 ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-10 16:49 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-14 6:59 ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-14 7:04 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-14 7:36 ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-14 9:04 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-14 9:13 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-14 9:23 ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-14 9:27 ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-14 9:32 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-14 9:30 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-14 20:35 ` John W. Linville
2008-10-14 21:15 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-14 21:19 ` John W. Linville
2008-10-14 21:27 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-14 21:50 ` John W. Linville
2008-10-14 21:57 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-15 15:46 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-15 15:59 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-15 17:26 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-15 17:39 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-15 17:45 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-15 18:11 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-15 17:47 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-15 11:25 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-15 19:25 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-15 13:16 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-15 23:31 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-15 17:08 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-16 0:35 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-15 17:44 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-16 0:57 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-15 18:56 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-16 3:00 ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-16 11:38 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20 2:51 ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-20 3:40 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20 5:18 ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-20 6:33 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20 6:38 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20 6:46 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20 6:50 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20 6:59 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20 7:22 ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-20 16:43 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-21 1:34 ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-21 1:42 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-21 1:58 ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-21 2:37 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-21 4:02 ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-21 4:58 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-21 5:28 ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-21 6:02 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-21 6:46 ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-21 6:07 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-21 6:29 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-21 6:51 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-21 17:13 ` John W. Linville
2008-10-21 17:43 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-21 17:48 ` John W. Linville
2008-10-21 11:02 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-21 18:05 ` John W. Linville
2008-10-21 11:21 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-22 9:20 ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-22 10:13 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-23 2:29 ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-21 6:40 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-21 6:47 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-21 7:05 ` Johannes Berg
[not found] ` <79124FD53D2E084387D88C71BEB48F3EDD3625@CPEXBE-EML29.kpnsp.local>
2008-10-21 7:37 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-21 16:39 ` Marcel Holtmann [this message]
2008-10-21 11:04 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-21 16:40 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-15 17:40 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-15 2:00 ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-14 9:19 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-15 1:40 ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-15 15:50 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-15 16:01 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-15 17:29 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-15 17:36 ` Johannes Berg
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2008-10-15 13:16 Joerg Pommnitz
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