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From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <lrodriguez@atheros.com>
To: Tomas Winkler <tomasw@gmail.com>
Cc: Luis Rodriguez <Luis.Rodriguez@Atheros.com>,
	Marcel Holtmann <holtmann@linux.intel.com>,
	Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	Zhu Yi <yi.zhu@intel.com>,
	"Kolekar, Abhijeet" <abhijeet.kolekar@intel.com>,
	"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: New Regulatory Domain Api.
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:08:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081015170830.GA15902@tesla> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1ba2fa240810151631t37edc367hfe59c76926c7b82e@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 04:31:20PM -0700, Tomas Winkler wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez
> <lrodriguez@atheros.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:25:48PM -0700, Marcel Holtmann wrote:
> >> > The problem here is not this though the problem here is the case
> >> > where people are using 2.6.28 without no iw or crda *and* have more
> >> > than two cards :)
> >>
> >> it might sound like an unlikely case and it will most likely only be the
> >> A-band usage anyway, but it is a valid case. People with old laptops do
> >> use newer wireless cards in PCMCIA or USB form factor to get better WiFi
> >> performance and/or stability. In some cases you can just replace your
> >> internal card, but with the switch from MiniPCI to half-MiniPCI this is
> >> not as likely anymore. So the use of a second external card becomes more
> >> likely.
> >
> > Right, and the proposed solution I had was to use an intersection
> > between two regulatory domains. This solution just doesn't currently
> > work well with Intel cards due to the capability <-> regulatory one to
> > one mapping.
> 
> This  might be viewed this way but this is not concept behind it.
> First Intel HW enforce regulatory domain written in the EEPROM, which
> makes it in your sense capability even it's not.

I see.

> Second Intel uses special regulatory domains called MOW1 and MOW2
> (most of the world 1 and 2) + possible restriction to BG. These 3
> domains/capabilities should be restrictive enough comply with most of
> the world regulatory restrictions.

Well to meet your current SKUs requirements :)

> There is no real hint for specific
> regulatory domain that can be applied form this, the concept is that
> you should be move relatively freely around the globe without changing
> anything.

The issue was your single band cards do not store 5 GHz band regulatory
information. Is this MOW1 or MOW2?

> You really have to use some other source to specify regulatory domain
> it's cannot be retrieved from the MOW SKU's.

Right, do you have any other source for location or that you can
make this implication from your devices?

> The only exception in
> Intel cards are JP and KR SKU's which are real regulatory domains.

What makes them "real" BTW?

> Just my two cents, probably didn't help to solve the problem,

It certainly helps more understand your situation. I had no idea
of MOW1 and MOW2. Can this be documented as part of the
regulatory_hint() code changes which will be added?

  Luis

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-16  0:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-09 22:17 New Regulatory Domain Api Kolekar, Abhijeet
2008-10-09 15:45 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-10  3:22   ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-10 16:49     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-14  6:59       ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-14  7:04         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-14  7:36           ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-14  9:04             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-14  9:13               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-14  9:23                 ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-14  9:27                   ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-14  9:32                     ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-14  9:30                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-14 20:35               ` John W. Linville
2008-10-14 21:15                 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-14 21:19                   ` John W. Linville
2008-10-14 21:27                     ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-14 21:50                       ` John W. Linville
2008-10-14 21:57                         ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-15 15:46                       ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-15 15:59                         ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-15 17:26                           ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-15 17:39                             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-15 17:45                               ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-15 18:11                                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-15 17:47                               ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-15 11:25                                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-15 19:25                                   ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-15 13:16                                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-15 23:31                                       ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-15 17:08                                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez [this message]
2008-10-16  0:35                                           ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-15 17:44                                             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-16  0:57                                               ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-15 18:56                                                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-16  3:00                                                   ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-16 11:38                                                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20  2:51                                                       ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-20  3:40                                                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20  5:18                                                           ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-20  6:33                                                             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20  6:38                                                               ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20  6:46                                                                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20  6:50                                                                   ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20  6:59                                                                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20  7:22                                                                       ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-20 16:43                                                                         ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-21  1:34                                                                           ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-21  1:42                                                                             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-21  1:58                                                                               ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-21  2:37                                                                                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-21  4:02                                                                                   ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-21  4:58                                                                                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-21  5:28                                                                                       ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-21  6:02                                                                                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-21  6:46                                                                                           ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-21  6:07                                                                                       ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-21  6:29                                                                                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-21  6:51                                                                                           ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-21 17:13                                                                                             ` John W. Linville
2008-10-21 17:43                                                                                               ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-21 17:48                                                                                                 ` John W. Linville
2008-10-21 11:02                                                                                                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-21 18:05                                                                                                     ` John W. Linville
2008-10-21 11:21                                                                                                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-22  9:20                                                                                                     ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-22 10:13                                                                                                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-23  2:29                                                                                                         ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-21  6:40                                                                                         ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-21  6:47                                                                                           ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-21  7:05                                                                                   ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]                                                                                     ` <79124FD53D2E084387D88C71BEB48F3EDD3625@CPEXBE-EML29.kpnsp.local>
2008-10-21  7:37                                                                                       ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-21 16:39                                                                                     ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-21 11:04                                                                                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-21 16:40                                                                                       ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-15 17:40                             ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-15  2:00                   ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-14  9:19     ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-15  1:40       ` Zhu Yi
2008-10-15 15:50         ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-15 16:01           ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-15 17:29             ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-15 17:36               ` Johannes Berg
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-10-15 13:16 Joerg Pommnitz

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