From: Marcel Holtmann <holtmann@linux.intel.com>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: reinette chatre <reinette.chatre@linux.intel.com>,
Tomas Winkler <tomasw@gmail.com>,
"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: New iwlwifi 3945 uCode available
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:56:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1224662185.9386.131.camel@californication> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1224660449.28639.22.camel@johannes.berg>
Hi Johannes,
> > I do not believe our request is unreasonable. If a user runs a new
> > kernel the log will print a message that the firmware is incorrect ...
> > all the user needs to do is go to
> > http://intellinuxwireless.org/?n=Downloads and download the latest
> > firmware.
>
> And that exactly _is_ a problem, the user may be relying on wireless
> connectivity. And they won't know up-front they need new firmware. Since
> firmware is loaded from userspace, you're breaking userspace/kernel ABI,
> it's pretty simple really.
I talked to David Woodhouse and we plan to add a big warning to
modules_install when MODULE_FIRMWARE is not present on the filesystem.
> I really don't know why we let you get away with this and bitch
> endlessly when b43 does such a change, to the point where we finally
> cave in and support both versions. Why should a community-supported
> driver be held to higher standards?
If in any way possible, we should support both versions of the firmware.
Regards
Marcel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-22 7:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-21 18:27 New iwlwifi 3945 uCode available reinette chatre
2008-10-21 21:25 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-21 21:33 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-21 21:34 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-21 21:38 ` John W. Linville
2008-10-21 21:53 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-21 22:13 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-21 22:23 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-21 23:01 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-21 23:09 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-21 23:11 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-21 23:27 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-21 23:31 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-21 23:34 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-21 22:28 ` reinette chatre
2008-10-21 23:06 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-21 23:34 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-22 1:03 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-22 7:27 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-22 7:56 ` Marcel Holtmann [this message]
2008-10-22 7:57 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-22 20:30 ` reinette chatre
2008-10-22 22:59 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-22 23:14 ` reinette chatre
2008-10-22 23:39 ` John W. Linville
2008-10-23 1:12 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-23 7:22 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-22 9:10 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-22 9:14 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-22 9:23 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-22 10:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-22 12:28 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-22 18:25 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-24 12:45 ` Florian Mickler
2008-10-21 21:59 ` reinette chatre
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-04-28 20:52 new " reinette chatre
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=1224662185.9386.131.camel@californication \
--to=holtmann@linux.intel.com \
--cc=johannes@sipsolutions.net \
--cc=linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linville@tuxdriver.com \
--cc=reinette.chatre@linux.intel.com \
--cc=tomasw@gmail.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.