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From: Florian Mickler <florian@mickler.org>
To: Thomas Winkler <tomasw-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: New iwlwifi 3945 uCode available
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:45:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081024144521.3943a0a3@schatten> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1ba2fa240810220528w6b2e4e60k7d2390328d9b5c49@mail.gmail.com>

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Hi!
I'm a 3945 user and am quite happy with everything. Thx for your good
work! But:

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:28:14 +0200
"Tomas Winkler" <tomasw-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> 
> The objective of the objections is not that we want to immensely hurt
> users but rather the trade off between maintain even uglier code and
> users running buggy firmware versus logging into older kernel and
> downloading new firmware in 5 minutes looks to me not proportional.
> Distro users that pull updates won't even notice. I might be wrong
> though.

more so like 10 minutes, if you are quick to grasp what happened. 
if  1000 encounter this problem, that's 10000 minutes wasted, thats
7*24 hours. That's some annoying big waste of time!
keep in mind that that breakage _will_ waste the time of other people
and that those people are your fellow cutting-edge-kernel testers and
developers! 

but then again, if the new firmware is really superior in many cases,
that might be worth it? i mean, if people forget that they are annoyed
because the device now performs super ueber cool... or smth like that..
it might pay off (from a user perspective)... 

so my hope: you avoid breakage and keep people happy! That
is also good for your karma (whatever that is) 

Sincerely,
Florian


p.s.: if i think more about it: all my non-linux colleagues refer to
such breakages as "the linux-expirience"... my linux friends would refer
to such stuff as "the gentoo-expirience" ... but in my book stuff
like this just sucks...

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-10-24 13:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-21 18:27 New iwlwifi 3945 uCode available reinette chatre
2008-10-21 21:25 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-21 21:33   ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-21 21:34     ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-21 21:38       ` John W. Linville
2008-10-21 21:53         ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-21 22:13           ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-21 22:23             ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-21 23:01               ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-21 23:09                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-21 23:11                   ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-21 23:27                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-21 23:31                       ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-21 23:34                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-21 22:28             ` reinette chatre
2008-10-21 23:06               ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-21 23:34                 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-22  1:03                   ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-22  7:27               ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-22  7:56                 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-22  7:57                   ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-22 20:30                   ` reinette chatre
2008-10-22 22:59                     ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-22 23:14                       ` reinette chatre
2008-10-22 23:39                         ` John W. Linville
2008-10-23  1:12                         ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-23  7:22                         ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-22  9:10                 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-22  9:14                   ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-22  9:23                     ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-22 10:07               ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-22 12:28                 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-22 18:25                   ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-10-24 12:45                   ` Florian Mickler [this message]
2008-10-21 21:59       ` reinette chatre
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2009-04-28 20:52 new " reinette chatre

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