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From: Michael Ellerman <michael@ellerman.id.au>
To: Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>
Cc: Nicolas Palix <npalix@diku.dk>,
	kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Julia Lawall <julia@diku.dk>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH linux-next] powerpc/powermac: Add missing of_node_put
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 23:58:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1228694298.21407.4.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081207164333.78b69d16.sfr@canb.auug.org.au>

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On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 16:43 +1100, Stephen Rothwell wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> 
> On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 13:31:00 +1100 Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org> wrote:
> >
> > I'm really in two minds about applying any of the of_node_put patches
> > that only affect powermacs.  The reference counts only matter on
> > platforms where we update the OF device tree at runtime, which is
> > currently only IBM pSeries machines.  Since we don't have any hotplug
> > on powermacs, and never will have, the OF device tree is completely
> > static and we don't actually need refcounts on the nodes at all, so
> > who cares if they're a bit higher than they might be?
> > 
> > In particular, the VIA whose node we're looking for here is built-in
> > on the motherboard, and there can never be more than one, and it can
> > never be removed.
> 
> I my mind it is about consistent use of the API and good examples for
> people to copy.  Also, in about a year you will be presented with the
> same set of patches when a new pair of eyes looks at the same code and
> notices the discrepancy ...

what-he-said++

Allowing the ref counting to be broken in one part of the code is just
asking for it to be broken everywhere.

cheers

-- 
Michael Ellerman
OzLabs, IBM Australia Development Lab

wwweb: http://michael.ellerman.id.au
phone: +61 2 6212 1183 (tie line 70 21183)

We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors,
we borrow it from our children. - S.M.A.R.T Person

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From: Michael Ellerman <michael@ellerman.id.au>
To: Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>
Cc: Nicolas Palix <npalix@diku.dk>,
	kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Julia Lawall <julia@diku.dk>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH linux-next] powerpc/powermac: Add missing of_node_put
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:58:18 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1228694298.21407.4.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081207164333.78b69d16.sfr@canb.auug.org.au>

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On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 16:43 +1100, Stephen Rothwell wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> 
> On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 13:31:00 +1100 Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org> wrote:
> >
> > I'm really in two minds about applying any of the of_node_put patches
> > that only affect powermacs.  The reference counts only matter on
> > platforms where we update the OF device tree at runtime, which is
> > currently only IBM pSeries machines.  Since we don't have any hotplug
> > on powermacs, and never will have, the OF device tree is completely
> > static and we don't actually need refcounts on the nodes at all, so
> > who cares if they're a bit higher than they might be?
> > 
> > In particular, the VIA whose node we're looking for here is built-in
> > on the motherboard, and there can never be more than one, and it can
> > never be removed.
> 
> I my mind it is about consistent use of the API and good examples for
> people to copy.  Also, in about a year you will be presented with the
> same set of patches when a new pair of eyes looks at the same code and
> notices the discrepancy ...

what-he-said++

Allowing the ref counting to be broken in one part of the code is just
asking for it to be broken everywhere.

cheers

-- 
Michael Ellerman
OzLabs, IBM Australia Development Lab

wwweb: http://michael.ellerman.id.au
phone: +61 2 6212 1183 (tie line 70 21183)

We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors,
we borrow it from our children. - S.M.A.R.T Person

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From: Michael Ellerman <michael@ellerman.id.au>
To: Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>
Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>, Nicolas Palix <npalix@diku.dk>,
	kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Julia Lawall <julia@diku.dk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH linux-next] powerpc/powermac: Add missing of_node_put
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:58:18 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1228694298.21407.4.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081207164333.78b69d16.sfr@canb.auug.org.au>

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On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 16:43 +1100, Stephen Rothwell wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> 
> On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 13:31:00 +1100 Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org> wrote:
> >
> > I'm really in two minds about applying any of the of_node_put patches
> > that only affect powermacs.  The reference counts only matter on
> > platforms where we update the OF device tree at runtime, which is
> > currently only IBM pSeries machines.  Since we don't have any hotplug
> > on powermacs, and never will have, the OF device tree is completely
> > static and we don't actually need refcounts on the nodes at all, so
> > who cares if they're a bit higher than they might be?
> > 
> > In particular, the VIA whose node we're looking for here is built-in
> > on the motherboard, and there can never be more than one, and it can
> > never be removed.
> 
> I my mind it is about consistent use of the API and good examples for
> people to copy.  Also, in about a year you will be presented with the
> same set of patches when a new pair of eyes looks at the same code and
> notices the discrepancy ...

what-he-said++

Allowing the ref counting to be broken in one part of the code is just
asking for it to be broken everywhere.

cheers

-- 
Michael Ellerman
OzLabs, IBM Australia Development Lab

wwweb: http://michael.ellerman.id.au
phone: +61 2 6212 1183 (tie line 70 21183)

We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors,
we borrow it from our children. - S.M.A.R.T Person

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-12-07 23:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-02 13:45 [PATCH linux-next] powerpc/powermac: Add missing of_node_put Nicolas Palix
2008-12-02 13:45 ` Nicolas Palix
2008-12-02 13:45 ` Nicolas Palix
2008-12-02 23:19 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-12-02 23:19   ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-12-02 23:19   ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-12-02 23:25   ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-12-02 23:25     ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-12-02 23:25     ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-12-03 10:25     ` [PATCH] " Nicolas Palix
2008-12-03 10:25       ` Nicolas Palix
2008-12-03 10:25       ` Nicolas Palix
2008-12-07  0:34 ` [PATCH linux-next] " Andrew Morton
2008-12-07  0:34   ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-07  0:34   ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-07  2:31   ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-07  2:31     ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-07  2:31     ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-07  5:43     ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-12-07  5:43       ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-12-07  5:43       ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-12-07 14:09       ` Nicolas Palix
2008-12-07 14:09         ` Nicolas Palix
2008-12-07 14:09         ` Nicolas Palix
2008-12-07 23:58       ` Michael Ellerman [this message]
2008-12-07 23:58         ` Michael Ellerman
2008-12-07 23:58         ` Michael Ellerman

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