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From: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	npiggin@suse.de
Subject: Re: Increase dirty_ratio and dirty_background_ratio?
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:07:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1231528042.5998.13.camel@think.oraclecorp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090109180241.GA15023@duck.suse.cz>

On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 19:02 +0100, Jan Kara wrote:

>   What we observe in the seekwatcher graphs is, that there are three
> processes writing back the single database file in parallel (2 pdflush
> threads because the machine has 2 CPUs, and the database process itself
> because of dirty throttling). Each of the processes is writing back the
> file at a different offset and so they together create even more random IO
> (I'm attaching the graph and can provide blocktrace data if someone is
> interested). If there was just one process doing the writeback, we'd be
> writing back those data considerably faster...

I spent some time trying similar things for btrfs, and went as far as
making my own writeback thread and changing pdflush and throttled writes
to wait on it.  It was a great hack, but in the end I found the real
problem was the way write_cache_pages is advancing the page_index.

You probably remember the related ext4 discussion, and you could try my
simple patch in this workload to see if it helps ext3.

http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/10/1/278

Ext3 may need similar tricks.

-chris



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From: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	npiggin@suse.de
Subject: Re: Increase dirty_ratio and dirty_background_ratio?
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:07:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1231528042.5998.13.camel@think.oraclecorp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090109180241.GA15023@duck.suse.cz>

On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 19:02 +0100, Jan Kara wrote:

>   What we observe in the seekwatcher graphs is, that there are three
> processes writing back the single database file in parallel (2 pdflush
> threads because the machine has 2 CPUs, and the database process itself
> because of dirty throttling). Each of the processes is writing back the
> file at a different offset and so they together create even more random IO
> (I'm attaching the graph and can provide blocktrace data if someone is
> interested). If there was just one process doing the writeback, we'd be
> writing back those data considerably faster...

I spent some time trying similar things for btrfs, and went as far as
making my own writeback thread and changing pdflush and throttled writes
to wait on it.  It was a great hack, but in the end I found the real
problem was the way write_cache_pages is advancing the page_index.

You probably remember the related ext4 discussion, and you could try my
simple patch in this workload to see if it helps ext3.

http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/10/1/278

Ext3 may need similar tricks.

-chris


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-01-09 19:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-07 15:45 Increase dirty_ratio and dirty_background_ratio? Jan Kara
2009-01-07 16:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-07 16:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-07 16:39   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-07 16:39     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-07 20:51     ` David Miller
2009-01-07 20:51       ` David Miller
2009-01-08 11:02       ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-08 11:02         ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-08 16:24         ` David Miller
2009-01-08 16:24           ` David Miller
2009-01-08 16:48           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-08 16:48             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-08 16:55             ` Chris Mason
2009-01-08 16:55               ` Chris Mason
2009-01-08 17:05               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-08 17:05                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-08 19:57                 ` Jan Kara
2009-01-08 19:57                   ` Jan Kara
2009-01-08 20:01                   ` David Miller
2009-01-08 20:01                     ` David Miller
2009-01-09 18:02                   ` Jan Kara
2009-01-09 19:00                     ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-09 19:00                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-09 19:07                     ` Chris Mason [this message]
2009-01-09 19:07                       ` Chris Mason
2009-01-09 22:31                     ` david
2009-01-09 21:34                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-09 21:34                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-14  3:29                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-14  3:29                   ` Nick Piggin

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