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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Micha__ Nazarewicz <m.nazarewicz@samsung.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, m.szyprowski@samsung.com,
	kyungmin.park@samsung.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Physical Memory Management [0/1]
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:10:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1242321000.6642.1456.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090514100718.d8c20b64.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 10:07 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Thu, 14 May 2009 15:04:55 +0200
> Micha__ Nazarewicz <m.nazarewicz@samsung.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 14 May 2009 14:05:02 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > And who says your pre-allocated pool won't fragment with repeated PMM
> > > use?
> > 
> > Yes, this is a good question.  What's more, there's no good answer. ;)
> > 
> 
> We do have capability in page reclaim to deliberately free up
> physically contiguous pages (known as "lumpy reclaim").
> 
> It would be interesting were someone to have a go at making that
> available to userspace: ask the kernel to give you 1MB of physically
> contiguous memory.  There are reasons why this can fail, but migrating
> pages can be used to improve the success rate, and userspace can be
> careful to not go nuts using mlock(), etc.
> 
> The returned memory would of course need to be protected from other
> reclaim/migration/etc activity.

I thought we already exposed this, its called hugetlbfs ;-)


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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Micha__ Nazarewicz <m.nazarewicz@samsung.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, m.szyprowski@samsung.com,
	kyungmin.park@samsung.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Physical Memory Management [0/1]
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:10:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1242321000.6642.1456.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090514100718.d8c20b64.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 10:07 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Thu, 14 May 2009 15:04:55 +0200
> Micha__ Nazarewicz <m.nazarewicz@samsung.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 14 May 2009 14:05:02 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > And who says your pre-allocated pool won't fragment with repeated PMM
> > > use?
> > 
> > Yes, this is a good question.  What's more, there's no good answer. ;)
> > 
> 
> We do have capability in page reclaim to deliberately free up
> physically contiguous pages (known as "lumpy reclaim").
> 
> It would be interesting were someone to have a go at making that
> available to userspace: ask the kernel to give you 1MB of physically
> contiguous memory.  There are reasons why this can fail, but migrating
> pages can be used to improve the success rate, and userspace can be
> careful to not go nuts using mlock(), etc.
> 
> The returned memory would of course need to be protected from other
> reclaim/migration/etc activity.

I thought we already exposed this, its called hugetlbfs ;-)

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-14 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-13  9:26 [PATCH] Physical Memory Management [0/1] Michał Nazarewicz
2009-05-13  9:27 ` [PATCH] Physical Memory Management [1/1] Michał Nazarewicz
2009-05-13 22:11 ` [PATCH] Physical Memory Management [0/1] Andrew Morton
2009-05-13 22:11   ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-14  9:00   ` Michał Nazarewicz
2009-05-14  9:00     ` Michał Nazarewicz
2009-05-14 11:20     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-14 11:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-14 11:48       ` Michał Nazarewicz
2009-05-14 11:48         ` Michał Nazarewicz
2009-05-14 12:05         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-14 12:05           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-14 13:04           ` Michał Nazarewicz
2009-05-14 13:04             ` Michał Nazarewicz
2009-05-14 17:07             ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-14 17:07               ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-14 17:10               ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2009-05-14 17:10                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-15 10:06                 ` Michał Nazarewicz
2009-05-15 10:06                   ` Michał Nazarewicz
2009-05-15 10:18                   ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-15 10:18                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-15 10:47                     ` Michał Nazarewicz
2009-05-15 10:47                       ` Michał Nazarewicz
2009-05-15 11:03                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-15 11:03                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-15 11:11                         ` Michał Nazarewicz
2009-05-15 11:11                           ` Michał Nazarewicz
2009-05-15 11:26                       ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-15 11:26                         ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-15 12:05                         ` Michał Nazarewicz
2009-05-15 12:05                           ` Michał Nazarewicz
2009-05-14 19:33         ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-14 19:33           ` Andi Kleen
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2009-05-13  9:23 Michał Nazarewicz

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