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From: Nicolas Frattaroli <nicolas.frattaroli@collabora.com>
To: Dave Stevenson <dave.stevenson@raspberrypi.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
Cc: "Harry Wentland" <harry.wentland@amd.com>,
	"Leo Li" <sunpeng.li@amd.com>,
	"Rodrigo Siqueira" <siqueira@igalia.com>,
	"Alex Deucher" <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"Andrzej Hajda" <andrzej.hajda@intel.com>,
	"Neil Armstrong" <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
	"Robert Foss" <rfoss@kernel.org>,
	"Laurent Pinchart" <Laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Jonas Karlman" <jonas@kwiboo.se>,
	"Jernej Skrabec" <jernej.skrabec@gmail.com>,
	"Sandy Huang" <hjc@rock-chips.com>,
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	"Jani Nikula" <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	"Rodrigo Vivi" <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
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	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	"Werner Sembach" <wse@tuxedocomputers.com>,
	"Andri Yngvason" <andri@yngvason.is>,
	"Marius Vlad" <marius.vlad@collabora.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 03/22] drm: Add new general DRM property "color format"
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2026 14:21:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <12425220.nUPlyArG6x@workhorse> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260325-quaint-bull-of-fortitude-dc68da@houat>

On Wednesday, 25 March 2026 14:05:25 Central European Standard Time Maxime Ripard wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2026 at 12:49:19PM +0000, Dave Stevenson wrote:
> > > diff --git a/include/drm/drm_connector.h b/include/drm/drm_connector.h
> > > index af8b92d2d5b7..bd549f912b76 100644
> > > --- a/include/drm/drm_connector.h
> > > +++ b/include/drm/drm_connector.h
> > > @@ -571,14 +571,102 @@ enum drm_colorspace {
> > >   *   YCbCr 4:2:2 output format (ie. with horizontal subsampling)
> > >   * @DRM_OUTPUT_COLOR_FORMAT_YCBCR420:
> > >   *   YCbCr 4:2:0 output format (ie. with horizontal and vertical subsampling)
> > > + * @DRM_OUTPUT_COLOR_FORMAT_COUNT:
> > > + *   Number of valid output color format values in this enum
> > >   */
> > >  enum drm_output_color_format {
> > >         DRM_OUTPUT_COLOR_FORMAT_RGB444 = 0,
> > >         DRM_OUTPUT_COLOR_FORMAT_YCBCR444,
> > >         DRM_OUTPUT_COLOR_FORMAT_YCBCR422,
> > >         DRM_OUTPUT_COLOR_FORMAT_YCBCR420,
> > > +       DRM_OUTPUT_COLOR_FORMAT_COUNT,
> > >  };
> > >
> > > +/**
> > > + * enum drm_connector_color_format - Connector Color Format Request
> > > + *
> > > + * This enum, unlike &enum drm_output_color_format, is used to specify requests
> > > + * for a specific color format on a connector through the DRM "color format"
> > > + * property. The difference is that it has an "AUTO" value to specify that
> > > + * no specific choice has been made.
> > > + */
> > > +enum drm_connector_color_format {
> > > +       /**
> > > +        * @DRM_CONNECTOR_COLOR_FORMAT_AUTO: The driver or display protocol
> > > +        * helpers should pick a suitable color format. All implementations of a
> > > +        * specific display protocol must behave the same way with "AUTO", but
> > > +        * different display protocols do not necessarily have the same "AUTO"
> > > +        * semantics.
> > > +        *
> > > +        * For HDMI, "AUTO" picks RGB, but falls back to YCbCr 4:2:0 if the
> > > +        * bandwidth required for full-scale RGB is not available, or the mode
> > > +        * is YCbCr 4:2:0-only, as long as the mode and output both support
> > > +        * YCbCr 4:2:0.
> > 
> > Is there a reason you propose dropping back to YCbCr 4:2:0 without
> > trying YCbCr 4:2:2 first? Minimising the subsampling is surely
> > beneficial, and vc4 for one can do 4:2:2 but not 4:2:0.
> 
> The "auto" behaviour is strictly identical to the one we have right now,
> and this one stems from i915. Back when all that logic was added, it was
> decided to align every driver behavior on i915 because that's what most
> compositors would expect.

Hi Maxime,

would it be okay to extend the behavior while we're at it? 4:2:2 does save
bandwidth compared to RGB (unlike YCbCr 4:4:4). I do think 4:2:2 instead of
4:2:0 will provide benefits in some cases. I assume hardware that supports
4:2:2 only instead of 4:2:0 does so in order to save >= 1 horizontal
row of local SRAM buffer in the display controller for any downscaling,
as it'll only need to consider neighbouring pixels on the same row.

Kind regards,
Nicolas Frattaroli

> 
> Maxime
> 





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From: Nicolas Frattaroli <nicolas.frattaroli@collabora.com>
To: Dave Stevenson <dave.stevenson@raspberrypi.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
Cc: "Harry Wentland" <harry.wentland@amd.com>,
	"Leo Li" <sunpeng.li@amd.com>,
	"Rodrigo Siqueira" <siqueira@igalia.com>,
	"Alex Deucher" <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"Andrzej Hajda" <andrzej.hajda@intel.com>,
	"Neil Armstrong" <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
	"Robert Foss" <rfoss@kernel.org>,
	"Laurent Pinchart" <Laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Jonas Karlman" <jonas@kwiboo.se>,
	"Jernej Skrabec" <jernej.skrabec@gmail.com>,
	"Sandy Huang" <hjc@rock-chips.com>,
	"Heiko Stübner" <heiko@sntech.de>,
	"Andy Yan" <andy.yan@rock-chips.com>,
	"Jani Nikula" <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	"Rodrigo Vivi" <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	"Joonas Lahtinen" <joonas.lahtinen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Tvrtko Ursulin" <tursulin@ursulin.net>,
	"Dmitry Baryshkov" <lumag@kernel.org>,
	"Sascha Hauer" <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Shuah Khan" <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	kernel@collabora.com, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	"Werner Sembach" <wse@tuxedocomputers.com>,
	"Andri Yngvason" <andri@yngvason.is>,
	"Marius Vlad" <marius.vlad@collabora.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 03/22] drm: Add new general DRM property "color format"
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2026 14:21:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <12425220.nUPlyArG6x@workhorse> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260325-quaint-bull-of-fortitude-dc68da@houat>

On Wednesday, 25 March 2026 14:05:25 Central European Standard Time Maxime Ripard wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2026 at 12:49:19PM +0000, Dave Stevenson wrote:
> > > diff --git a/include/drm/drm_connector.h b/include/drm/drm_connector.h
> > > index af8b92d2d5b7..bd549f912b76 100644
> > > --- a/include/drm/drm_connector.h
> > > +++ b/include/drm/drm_connector.h
> > > @@ -571,14 +571,102 @@ enum drm_colorspace {
> > >   *   YCbCr 4:2:2 output format (ie. with horizontal subsampling)
> > >   * @DRM_OUTPUT_COLOR_FORMAT_YCBCR420:
> > >   *   YCbCr 4:2:0 output format (ie. with horizontal and vertical subsampling)
> > > + * @DRM_OUTPUT_COLOR_FORMAT_COUNT:
> > > + *   Number of valid output color format values in this enum
> > >   */
> > >  enum drm_output_color_format {
> > >         DRM_OUTPUT_COLOR_FORMAT_RGB444 = 0,
> > >         DRM_OUTPUT_COLOR_FORMAT_YCBCR444,
> > >         DRM_OUTPUT_COLOR_FORMAT_YCBCR422,
> > >         DRM_OUTPUT_COLOR_FORMAT_YCBCR420,
> > > +       DRM_OUTPUT_COLOR_FORMAT_COUNT,
> > >  };
> > >
> > > +/**
> > > + * enum drm_connector_color_format - Connector Color Format Request
> > > + *
> > > + * This enum, unlike &enum drm_output_color_format, is used to specify requests
> > > + * for a specific color format on a connector through the DRM "color format"
> > > + * property. The difference is that it has an "AUTO" value to specify that
> > > + * no specific choice has been made.
> > > + */
> > > +enum drm_connector_color_format {
> > > +       /**
> > > +        * @DRM_CONNECTOR_COLOR_FORMAT_AUTO: The driver or display protocol
> > > +        * helpers should pick a suitable color format. All implementations of a
> > > +        * specific display protocol must behave the same way with "AUTO", but
> > > +        * different display protocols do not necessarily have the same "AUTO"
> > > +        * semantics.
> > > +        *
> > > +        * For HDMI, "AUTO" picks RGB, but falls back to YCbCr 4:2:0 if the
> > > +        * bandwidth required for full-scale RGB is not available, or the mode
> > > +        * is YCbCr 4:2:0-only, as long as the mode and output both support
> > > +        * YCbCr 4:2:0.
> > 
> > Is there a reason you propose dropping back to YCbCr 4:2:0 without
> > trying YCbCr 4:2:2 first? Minimising the subsampling is surely
> > beneficial, and vc4 for one can do 4:2:2 but not 4:2:0.
> 
> The "auto" behaviour is strictly identical to the one we have right now,
> and this one stems from i915. Back when all that logic was added, it was
> decided to align every driver behavior on i915 because that's what most
> compositors would expect.

Hi Maxime,

would it be okay to extend the behavior while we're at it? 4:2:2 does save
bandwidth compared to RGB (unlike YCbCr 4:4:4). I do think 4:2:2 instead of
4:2:0 will provide benefits in some cases. I assume hardware that supports
4:2:2 only instead of 4:2:0 does so in order to save >= 1 horizontal
row of local SRAM buffer in the display controller for any downscaling,
as it'll only need to consider neighbouring pixels on the same row.

Kind regards,
Nicolas Frattaroli

> 
> Maxime
> 





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Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-24 16:01 [PATCH v11 00/22] Add new general DRM property "color format" Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01 ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01 ` [PATCH v11 01/22] drm/amd/display: Remove unnecessary SIGNAL_TYPE_HDMI_TYPE_A check Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01 ` [PATCH v11 02/22] drm/display: hdmi-state-helper: Use default case for unsupported formats Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01 ` [PATCH v11 03/22] drm: Add new general DRM property "color format" Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 17:00   ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-03-24 17:00     ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-03-24 19:10     ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 19:10       ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 19:53       ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-03-24 19:53         ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-03-25  8:24         ` Maxime Ripard
2026-03-25  8:24           ` Maxime Ripard
2026-03-25 11:03           ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-03-25 11:03             ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-03-25 11:17             ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-03-25 11:17               ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-03-25 14:56             ` Maxime Ripard
2026-03-25 14:56               ` Maxime Ripard
2026-03-25 18:43               ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-03-25 18:43                 ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-03-26 17:02                 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-03-26 17:02                   ` Maxime Ripard
2026-03-26 17:58                   ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-03-26 17:58                     ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-03-27 12:56                     ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-27 12:56                       ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-28  0:49                       ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-03-28  0:49                         ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-03-28 19:39                         ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-28 19:39                           ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-30 23:56                         ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-03-30 23:56                           ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-03-31 10:33                           ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-31 10:33                             ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-31 11:44                             ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-03-31 11:44                               ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-03-28  0:22                     ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-03-28  0:22                       ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-03-31 13:52                       ` Pekka Paalanen
2026-03-31 13:52                         ` Pekka Paalanen
2026-03-26 12:44             ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-26 12:44               ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-26 13:07               ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-03-26 13:07                 ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-03-26 13:26                 ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-26 13:26                   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-26 16:40               ` Daniel Stone
2026-03-26 16:40                 ` Daniel Stone
2026-03-25 13:05         ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-25 13:05           ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-25 12:49   ` Dave Stevenson
2026-03-25 12:49     ` Dave Stevenson
2026-03-25 13:05     ` Maxime Ripard
2026-03-25 13:05       ` Maxime Ripard
2026-03-25 13:21       ` Nicolas Frattaroli [this message]
2026-03-25 13:21         ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-25 13:44         ` Maxime Ripard
2026-03-25 13:44           ` Maxime Ripard
2026-03-25 13:11     ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-25 13:11       ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-25 13:43     ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-03-25 13:43       ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-03-26 11:16       ` Dave Stevenson
2026-03-26 11:16         ` Dave Stevenson
2026-03-26 12:02         ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-26 12:02           ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-04-01  8:27           ` Michel Dänzer
2026-04-01  8:27             ` Michel Dänzer
2026-03-26 12:13         ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-03-26 12:13           ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-03-26 13:39           ` Dave Stevenson
2026-03-26 13:39             ` Dave Stevenson
2026-03-24 16:01 ` [PATCH v11 04/22] drm/bridge: Act on the DRM color format property Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01 ` [PATCH v11 05/22] drm/atomic-helper: Add HDMI bridge output bus formats helper Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01 ` [PATCH v11 06/22] drm/display: hdmi-state-helper: Act on color format DRM property Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01 ` [PATCH v11 07/22] drm/display: hdmi-state-helper: Try subsampling in mode_valid Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01 ` [PATCH v11 08/22] drm/i915: Implement the "color format" DRM property Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01 ` [PATCH v11 09/22] drm/amdgpu: Implement " Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01 ` [PATCH v11 10/22] drm/rockchip: Add YUV422 output mode constants for VOP2 Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01 ` [PATCH v11 11/22] drm/rockchip: vop2: Add RK3576 to the RG swap special case Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01 ` [PATCH v11 12/22] drm/rockchip: vop2: Recognise 10-bit YUV422 as YUV format Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01 ` [PATCH v11 13/22] drm/rockchip: vop2: Set correct output format for RK3576 YUV422 Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01 ` [PATCH v11 14/22] drm/bridge: dw-hdmi-qp: Use common HDMI output bus fmts helper Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01 ` [PATCH v11 15/22] drm/rockchip: dw_hdmi_qp: Implement "color format" DRM property Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01 ` [PATCH v11 16/22] drm/rockchip: dw_hdmi_qp: Set supported_formats platdata Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01 ` [PATCH v11 17/22] drm/connector: Register color format property on HDMI connectors Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01 ` [PATCH v11 18/22] drm/tests: hdmi: Add tests for the color_format property Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01 ` [PATCH v11 19/22] drm/tests: hdmi: Add tests for HDMI helper's mode_valid Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01 ` [PATCH v11 20/22] drm/tests: bridge: Add KUnit tests for bridge chain format selection Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01 ` [PATCH v11 21/22] drm/tests: bridge: Add test for HDMI output bus formats helper Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01 ` [PATCH v11 22/22] drm/bridge: Document bridge chain format selection Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:01   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:47 ` ✗ CI.checkpatch: warning for Add new general DRM property "color format" (rev8) Patchwork
2026-03-24 16:49 ` ✓ CI.KUnit: success " Patchwork
2026-03-24 17:49 ` ✓ Xe.CI.BAT: " Patchwork
2026-03-24 18:21 ` ✗ i915.CI.BAT: failure " Patchwork
2026-03-25  6:22 ` ✗ Xe.CI.FULL: " Patchwork

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