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From: Daniel Walker <dwalker@fifo99.com>
To: Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.ml.walleij@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Victor <linux@maxim.org.za>,
	Haavard Skinnemoen <hskinnemoen@atmel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	John Stultz <johnstul@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: sched_clock() clocksource handling.
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 14:58:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1244041088.18985.9.camel@desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090603033603.GA31488@linux-sh.org>

On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 12:36 +0900, Paul Mundt wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 04:49:26AM -0700, Daniel Walker wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 16:54 +0900, Paul Mundt wrote:
> > >  unsigned long long __attribute__((weak)) sched_clock(void)
> > >  {
> > > -       return (unsigned long long)(jiffies - INITIAL_JIFFIES)
> > > -                                       * (NSEC_PER_SEC / HZ);
> > > +       unsigned long long time;
> > > +       struct clocksource *clock;
> > > +
> > > +       rcu_read_lock();
> > > +       clock = rcu_dereference(sched_clocksource);
> > > +       time = cyc2ns(clock, clocksource_read(clock));
> > > +       rcu_read_unlock();
> > > +
> > > +       return time;
> > >  }
> > 
> > My concerns with the locking here still stand. Nothing you've said or
> > done bolsters the clocksource in modules argument. I think what your
> > planning for sh clocksources seems very inelegant. I would imagine a
> > better solution is out there. I'd prefer if you just leave sched_clock
> > alone.
> > 
> This is the first I've heard you mention locking concerns, and as usual
> there is not enough technical content (or any, really) to go on to even
> reply to this. Whether you consider my solution for sh clocksources
> elegant or not is irrelevant, as I wasn't soliciting feedback, and it's a
> problem that has to be dealt with regardless of whether it's a pretty one
> or not.

I think maybe your not reading my emails .. I said there is unnessesary
locking in sched_clock, and that it's fixing a problem that doesn't
exist (i.e. clocksources in modules) .. You claim you want clocksources
in modules because you have a useful case in sh, which I consider not
very useful .. And your refusing to remove the locking, or that's how it
seems. So I'd prefer you don't submit this code any longer. I don't
think you know what your doing in this case.

This is not hand waving, and it is technical.

Daniel


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From: Daniel Walker <dwalker@fifo99.com>
To: Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.ml.walleij@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Victor <linux@maxim.org.za>,
	Haavard Skinnemoen <hskinnemoen@atmel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	John Stultz <johnstul@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: sched_clock() clocksource handling.
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:58:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1244041088.18985.9.camel@desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090603033603.GA31488@linux-sh.org>

On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 12:36 +0900, Paul Mundt wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 04:49:26AM -0700, Daniel Walker wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 16:54 +0900, Paul Mundt wrote:
> > >  unsigned long long __attribute__((weak)) sched_clock(void)
> > >  {
> > > -       return (unsigned long long)(jiffies - INITIAL_JIFFIES)
> > > -                                       * (NSEC_PER_SEC / HZ);
> > > +       unsigned long long time;
> > > +       struct clocksource *clock;
> > > +
> > > +       rcu_read_lock();
> > > +       clock = rcu_dereference(sched_clocksource);
> > > +       time = cyc2ns(clock, clocksource_read(clock));
> > > +       rcu_read_unlock();
> > > +
> > > +       return time;
> > >  }
> > 
> > My concerns with the locking here still stand. Nothing you've said or
> > done bolsters the clocksource in modules argument. I think what your
> > planning for sh clocksources seems very inelegant. I would imagine a
> > better solution is out there. I'd prefer if you just leave sched_clock
> > alone.
> > 
> This is the first I've heard you mention locking concerns, and as usual
> there is not enough technical content (or any, really) to go on to even
> reply to this. Whether you consider my solution for sh clocksources
> elegant or not is irrelevant, as I wasn't soliciting feedback, and it's a
> problem that has to be dealt with regardless of whether it's a pretty one
> or not.

I think maybe your not reading my emails .. I said there is unnessesary
locking in sched_clock, and that it's fixing a problem that doesn't
exist (i.e. clocksources in modules) .. You claim you want clocksources
in modules because you have a useful case in sh, which I consider not
very useful .. And your refusing to remove the locking, or that's how it
seems. So I'd prefer you don't submit this code any longer. I don't
think you know what your doing in this case.

This is not hand waving, and it is technical.

Daniel


  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-03 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-02  7:17 [PATCH] sched: sched_clock() clocksource handling Paul Mundt
2009-06-02  7:17 ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-02  7:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-02  7:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-02  7:35   ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-02  7:35     ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-02  7:41     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-02  7:41       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-02  7:54       ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-02  7:54         ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-02  8:00         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-02  8:00           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-02  8:00           ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-02  8:00             ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-02 11:49         ` Daniel Walker
2009-06-02 11:49           ` Daniel Walker
2009-06-02 20:21           ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-06-02 20:21             ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-06-03  3:36           ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-03  3:36             ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-03 14:58             ` Daniel Walker [this message]
2009-06-03 14:58               ` Daniel Walker
2009-06-02 12:26         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-02 12:26           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-02 20:17       ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-06-02 20:17         ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-06-03  3:39         ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-03  3:39           ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-02 14:17 ` Rabin Vincent
2009-06-02 14:29   ` Rabin Vincent
2009-06-02 14:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-02 14:25     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-02 22:24 ` john stultz
2009-06-02 22:24   ` john stultz
2009-06-03  7:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-03  7:03     ` Peter Zijlstra

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