From: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>
To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
Cc: Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>,
Alan Jenkins <alan-jenkins@tuffmail.co.uk>,
Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
John Linville <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rfkill: create useful userspace interface
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:19:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1244618364.3068.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090610024437.GF593@khazad-dum.debian.net>
Hi Henrique,
> > > You can remove the EPO functionality and add a "switch all radios off"
> > > and "switch all radios on" accell commands. But that's all you can do
> > > if you depend on userspace. It will -not- be EPO.
> > >
> > > You can have EPO in the kernel, and have userspace command the kernel to
> > > enter and exit EPO state.
> >
> > I fully disagree with you here and your concept of EPO and how it is
> > suppose to work is fully flawed. EPO is a policy and if you define it as
>
> Just rename it to something else.
>
> Whether the current code can achieve what EPO is suposed to be is beside
> the point. Just rename that functionality to something else, as the
> direction you want to go is clearly NOT one suitable for something named
> "EPO".
I don't care about the name. You can name it whatever you want. The
point here is that it is a policy and so we trigger it from userspace.
And we are finally fully capable of doing so with almost all subsystems
from a simple daemon. Only exception is most external 3G (as mentioned
in my other email) and my WiMAX is behaving a little bit quirky, but I
am looking into that.
Regards
Marcel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-10 7:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-28 15:31 [PATCH] rfkill: create useful userspace interface Johannes Berg
2009-05-28 15:44 ` [PATCH v2] " Johannes Berg
2009-05-28 15:47 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-05-28 15:58 ` [PATCH v3] " Johannes Berg
2009-05-29 8:38 ` [PATCH v4] " Johannes Berg
2009-05-29 10:43 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-05-31 9:13 ` [PATCH] " Alan Jenkins
2009-05-31 9:58 ` Johannes Berg
2009-05-31 12:36 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-05-31 13:18 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-31 19:01 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-01 7:33 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 8:17 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-01 12:10 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 13:05 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-01 14:47 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-01 14:57 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 16:10 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-01 19:44 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-01 22:26 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-02 7:38 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-02 8:01 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-02 8:18 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-03 4:03 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-03 5:57 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-03 21:33 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-04 4:13 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-07 12:38 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-07 12:57 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-07 15:28 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-07 17:16 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-07 17:26 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 10:14 ` [RFC] rfkill: remove set_global_sw_state() Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 10:32 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-08 11:10 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 11:13 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-08 11:15 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 11:19 ` [PATCH v2] rfkill: remove set_global_sw_state Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 11:22 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 11:24 ` [PATCH v3] " Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 12:27 ` [PATCH v4] " Alan Jenkins
2009-06-10 1:55 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-07 15:46 ` [PATCH] rfkill: create useful userspace interface Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-07 16:04 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-07 16:35 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-07 17:16 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-07 17:25 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-10 2:05 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-10 7:13 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-10 9:06 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-11 12:01 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-11 12:56 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-07 17:04 ` Dan Williams
2009-06-10 2:22 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-10 7:16 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-02 8:33 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-02 8:41 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-03 4:10 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-03 6:01 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-03 21:38 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-04 4:20 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-03 13:03 ` Dan Williams
2009-06-03 21:40 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-04 4:24 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-07 13:54 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-07 15:36 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-10 2:44 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-10 7:19 ` Marcel Holtmann [this message]
2009-06-01 12:28 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 12:37 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 12:38 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 12:45 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 12:50 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 13:33 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 14:29 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 15:36 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 15:37 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 15:50 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 15:53 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 17:56 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 19:22 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 12:43 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 12:49 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 12:53 ` Johannes Berg
2009-05-31 13:51 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-31 13:54 ` Johannes Berg
2009-05-31 18:22 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-31 19:03 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-05-31 21:19 ` Dan Williams
2009-06-01 7:18 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-01 7:27 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 7:40 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-01 14:41 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-02 8:08 ` [PATCH v5] " Johannes Berg
2009-06-02 8:33 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-02 9:41 ` [PATCH v6] " Johannes Berg
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