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From: Alan Jenkins <alan-jenkins@tuffmail.co.uk>
To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
Cc: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
	Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	John Linville <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rfkill: create useful userspace interface
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2009 16:28:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A2BDCB7.7060104@tuffmail.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090607125715.GC3340@khazad-dum.debian.net>

Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Jun 2009, Alan Jenkins wrote:
>   
>>  1) remove rfkill_set_global_sw_state()
>>  2) rfkill devices with NVS can e.g. call rfkill_has_nvs() before
>> registration, setting a flag.
>>  3) the "has NVS" flag is reported by /dev/rfkill, (at least in ADD
>> events, tho it may as well be set in all events)
>>  4) rfkill-input preserves existing behaviour - *if enabled* - by
>> initializing the global state from individual devices which have NVS.
>> (As before, each _type_ of rfkill device has its own global state).
>>  5) rfkill devices with NVS will have their current state preserved,
>> so long as the global state has not yet been set (by userspace or by
>> rfkill-input).  Of course userspace can change the state in response
>> to the device being added.
>>     
>
> I can agree to that, it will avoid the regression I have been
> complaining about, and seems to address the major complaints against
> what we have now...
>   

Yeah, I hope it avoids the objections about NVS in /dev/rfkill. We avoid 
the separate NVS operation. And it exports the NVS state through the 
specific device it comes from, rather than exporting it as a global state.

So userspace gets more specific information; at the same time the 
interface is simpler because the information comes in a single message, 
and it's less prescriptive because it doesn't push the idea of global 
state(s) quite so much.

> I think it should probably be enhanced (it doesn't have to be enhanced
> _now_, however) to let the core call back into NVS-providing drivers to
> checkpoint NVS state.  But that's not something I feel strongly about.
>   

Ok. I think that feature would be subject to further debate / 
clarification. So I will ignore it and code up the basics outlined above 
:-).

> Otherwise, the driver will checkpoint to NVS whatever is the state of
> its rfkill device, which could have been changed outside of the global
> scope.  While that's exacly what we do right now, it is arguably not the
> best way to go about it (i.e. it is broken).
>
>   
>> Comments?
>>     
>
> Let's do it :-)
>   

Cool :-). I'll see what I can do.

Alan


  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-07 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-28 15:31 [PATCH] rfkill: create useful userspace interface Johannes Berg
2009-05-28 15:44 ` [PATCH v2] " Johannes Berg
2009-05-28 15:47   ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-05-28 15:58   ` [PATCH v3] " Johannes Berg
2009-05-29  8:38     ` [PATCH v4] " Johannes Berg
2009-05-29 10:43       ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-05-31  9:13 ` [PATCH] " Alan Jenkins
2009-05-31  9:58   ` Johannes Berg
2009-05-31 12:36     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-05-31 13:18     ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-31 19:01     ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-01  7:33       ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01  8:17         ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-01 12:10           ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 13:05             ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-01 14:47             ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-01 14:57               ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 16:10               ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-01 19:44                 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-01 22:26                   ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-02  7:38                     ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-02  8:01                       ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-02  8:18                         ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-03  4:03                           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-03  5:57                             ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-03 21:33                               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-04  4:13                                 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-07 12:38                                   ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-07 12:57                                     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-07 15:28                                       ` Alan Jenkins [this message]
2009-06-07 17:16                                       ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-07 17:26                                         ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 10:14                                           ` [RFC] rfkill: remove set_global_sw_state() Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 10:32                                             ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-08 11:10                                               ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 11:13                                                 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-08 11:15                                                   ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 11:19                                               ` [PATCH v2] rfkill: remove set_global_sw_state Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 11:22                                                 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 11:24                                                   ` [PATCH v3] " Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 12:27                                                     ` [PATCH v4] " Alan Jenkins
2009-06-10  1:55                                                       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-07 15:46                                     ` [PATCH] rfkill: create useful userspace interface Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-07 16:04                                       ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-07 16:35                                         ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-07 17:16                                           ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-07 17:25                                             ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-10  2:05                                           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-10  7:13                                             ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-10  9:06                                               ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-11 12:01                                                 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-11 12:56                                                   ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-07 17:04                                       ` Dan Williams
2009-06-10  2:22                                         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-10  7:16                                           ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-02  8:33                         ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-02  8:41                           ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-03  4:10                             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-03  6:01                               ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-03 21:38                                 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-04  4:20                                   ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-03 13:03                               ` Dan Williams
2009-06-03 21:40                                 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-04  4:24                                   ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-07 13:54                                     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-07 15:36                                       ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-10  2:44                                         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-10  7:19                                           ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-01 12:28           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 12:37             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 12:38             ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 12:45               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 12:50                 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 13:33                   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 14:29                     ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 15:36                       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 15:37                         ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 15:50                           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 15:53                             ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 17:56                               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 19:22                                 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 12:43             ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 12:49               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 12:53                 ` Johannes Berg
2009-05-31 13:51 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-31 13:54   ` Johannes Berg
2009-05-31 18:22     ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-31 19:03     ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-05-31 21:19       ` Dan Williams
2009-06-01  7:18         ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-01  7:27       ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01  7:40         ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-01 14:41         ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-02  8:08 ` [PATCH v5] " Johannes Berg
2009-06-02  8:33   ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-02  9:41 ` [PATCH v6] " Johannes Berg

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