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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Gautham R Shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Venkatesh Pallipadi <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] cpu: pseries: Offline state framework.
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 07:33:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1251869611.7547.38.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090828095741.10641.32053.stgit@sofia.in.ibm.com>

On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 15:30 +0530, Gautham R Shenoy wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> This is the version 2 of the patch series to provide a cpu-offline framework
> that enables the administrators choose the state the offline CPU must be put
> into when multiple such states are exposed by the underlying architecture.
> 
> Version 1 of the Patch can be found here:
> http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/8/6/236
> 
> The patch-series exposes the following sysfs tunables to
> allow the system-adminstrator to choose the state of a CPU:
> 
> To query the available hotplug states, one needs to read the sysfs tunable:
> 	/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu<number>/available_hotplug_states
> To query or set the current state, on needs to read/write the sysfs tunable:
> 	/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu<number>/current_states
> 
> The patchset ensures that the writes to the "current_state" sysfs file are
> serialized against the writes to the "online" file.
> 
> This patchset also contains the offline state driver implemented for
> pSeries. For pSeries, we define three available_hotplug_states. They are:
> 
> 	online: The processor is online.
> 
> 	deallocate: This is the the default behaviour when the cpu is offlined
> 	even in the absense of this driver. The CPU would call make an
> 	rtas_stop_self() call and hand over the CPU back to the resource pool,
> 	thereby effectively deallocating that vCPU from the LPAR.
> 	NOTE: This would result in a configuration change to the LPAR
> 	which is visible to the outside world.
> 
> 	deactivate: This cedes the vCPU to the hypervisor which
> 	in turn can put the vCPU time to the best use.
> 	NOTE: This option DOES NOT result in a configuration change
> 	and the vCPU would be still entitled to the LPAR to which it earlier
> 	belong to.
> 
> Awaiting your feedback.

I'm still thinking this is a bad idea.

The OS should only know about online/offline.

Use the hypervisor interface to deal with the cpu once its offline.

That is, I think this interface you propose is a layering violation.

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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Gautham R Shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>
Cc: Joel Schopp <jschopp@austin.ibm.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@in.ibm.com>,
	Venkatesh Pallipadi <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] cpu: pseries: Offline state framework.
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 07:33:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1251869611.7547.38.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090828095741.10641.32053.stgit@sofia.in.ibm.com>

On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 15:30 +0530, Gautham R Shenoy wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> This is the version 2 of the patch series to provide a cpu-offline framework
> that enables the administrators choose the state the offline CPU must be put
> into when multiple such states are exposed by the underlying architecture.
> 
> Version 1 of the Patch can be found here:
> http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/8/6/236
> 
> The patch-series exposes the following sysfs tunables to
> allow the system-adminstrator to choose the state of a CPU:
> 
> To query the available hotplug states, one needs to read the sysfs tunable:
> 	/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu<number>/available_hotplug_states
> To query or set the current state, on needs to read/write the sysfs tunable:
> 	/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu<number>/current_states
> 
> The patchset ensures that the writes to the "current_state" sysfs file are
> serialized against the writes to the "online" file.
> 
> This patchset also contains the offline state driver implemented for
> pSeries. For pSeries, we define three available_hotplug_states. They are:
> 
> 	online: The processor is online.
> 
> 	deallocate: This is the the default behaviour when the cpu is offlined
> 	even in the absense of this driver. The CPU would call make an
> 	rtas_stop_self() call and hand over the CPU back to the resource pool,
> 	thereby effectively deallocating that vCPU from the LPAR.
> 	NOTE: This would result in a configuration change to the LPAR
> 	which is visible to the outside world.
> 
> 	deactivate: This cedes the vCPU to the hypervisor which
> 	in turn can put the vCPU time to the best use.
> 	NOTE: This option DOES NOT result in a configuration change
> 	and the vCPU would be still entitled to the LPAR to which it earlier
> 	belong to.
> 
> Awaiting your feedback.

I'm still thinking this is a bad idea.

The OS should only know about online/offline.

Use the hypervisor interface to deal with the cpu once its offline.

That is, I think this interface you propose is a layering violation.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-09-02  5:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-28 10:00 [PATCH v2 0/2] cpu: pseries: Offline state framework Gautham R Shenoy
2009-08-28 10:00 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2009-08-28 10:00 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] cpu: Offline state Framework Gautham R Shenoy
2009-08-28 10:00   ` Gautham R Shenoy
2009-09-02  4:49   ` Andrew Morton
2009-09-02  4:49     ` Andrew Morton
2009-08-28 10:00 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] cpu: Implement cpu-offline-state driver for pSeries Gautham R Shenoy
2009-08-28 10:00   ` Gautham R Shenoy
2009-09-02  5:33 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2009-09-02  5:33   ` [PATCH v2 0/2] cpu: pseries: Offline state framework Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-02 20:02   ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-02 20:02     ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-24  0:48   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-09-24  0:48     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-09-24  7:51     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-24  7:51       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-24  8:38       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-09-24  8:38         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-09-24 11:33         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-24 11:33           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-24 11:41           ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-24 11:41             ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-25  7:25             ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-09-25  7:25               ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-09-25  7:42               ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-25  7:42                 ` Arjan van de Ven

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